Other Sports NBA Offseason thread 2013 edition - Page 24

Al Bundy · 07-05-2013, 02:12 PM

Looks the Warriors are dumping Biedrins and Jefferson in a salary dump to Utah

chiefzilla1501 · 07-10-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Cavs land Bynum. That roster from last year alone would have been a borderline playoff team just off of a year more experience alone... And Irving/AV staying more healthy. Honestly Dion Waiters could be the biggest difference... Dude is primed to break out and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the "star" of the team.

This year if Irving does get hurt though we will have Jack instead of nothing at PG. Varejao never got hurt until he started playing Center.. Adding Bynum should help a lot with that.

Kyrie and Waiters are another one of those duos that I just can't figure out. I like Waiters' potential, but he HAS to learn to hit his mid-range to long-range jumpers consistently. He's a slasher like Kyrie and I often felt like they played better together when they weren't on the court at the same time. And there's no way Waiters becomes even close to the player Kyrie is.

They either have to be creative about making those 2 work better together, or the offense has to figure it out. It might just be that Waiters, like Tristan Thompson, are going to be fresh bench guys.

**Mav** · 07-10-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I doubt Anderson is going to be traded based on the Pelicans trading away Lopez. They traded Lopez to get Anderson on the floor.

We aren't trading him. If they trade him, we have zero shooters. I think they are confident in both Jason Smith, and Jeff Whithey, (great pick up) and they just signed Greg Stiemsma today. I think they are fine with their bigs. I love this team right now. A playoff team? Eh, may need a year, but definitely on its way.

RustShack · 07-10-2013, 11:25 PM

I've actually made the comparison before... Waiters is kinda like a Harden with the Thunder. He's great and is better off the bench in the given scenereo... But the game ends with him on the floor. That's how Waiters was at Syracuse when he won 6th man of the year.

Waiters can be a top SG, just like Irving is a top PG.

If they coexist its the best backcourt in the NBA.

RustShack · 07-10-2013, 11:48 PM

Waiters is like a combination between Westbrook and Wade. If he just works on his jumper he's one of the elites. Irving obviously is elite at handling the ball, and overall better on offense... But I think Waiters can be the more complete player.

Titty Meat · 07-11-2013, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't know why the Lakers would want Melo. He's Dominique Wilkins.

The Lakers aren't the type of franchise to be satisfied with winning 35-40 games a year. Theyll have to make a move for him.

Titty Meat · 07-11-2013, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Wife is driving that train from everything I read. She wants to be back in LA.

He's also getting older and hasn't won shit.

-King- · 07-11-2013, 03:23 AM

As bad as Dwight was for the Lakers, you gotta feel for the Sixers and Bynum.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-11-2013, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Waiters is like a combination between Westbrook and Wade. If he just works on his jumper he's one of the elites. Irving obviously is elite at handling the ball, and overall better on offense... But I think Waiters can be the more complete player.

Please just stop.

TambaBerry · 07-11-2013, 06:36 AM

Cavs need shooters plain and simple, that will open up the lane for Irving and waiters.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-11-2013, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy

Well, when Kobe's gone, who else in the league is going to throw up 35 shots with no regard whatsoever for whether or not he makes them.

OJ Mayo?

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Cavs land Bynum. That roster from last year alone would have been a borderline playoff team just off of a year more experience alone... And Irving/AV staying more healthy. Honestly Dion Waiters could be the biggest difference... Dude is primed to break out and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the "star" of the team.

This year if Irving does get hurt though we will have Jack instead of nothing at PG. Varejao never got hurt until he started playing Center.. Adding Bynum should help a lot with that.

Next tell us how Iowa State is going to win the Big XII.

MIAdragon · 07-11-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I'm excited to see what a Big like Bynum does for the production of Irving and Waiters.

I'm sure his cheering from behind the bench will do wonders for their game.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-11-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry

Cavs need shooters plain and simple, that will open up the lane for Irving and waiters.

Yes, they do. You can tell that was a focus in the draft. Karasev has been compared to Kyle Korver and he is ready to play right away. Anthony Bennett is probably going to be a guy who can shoot surprisingly well from the outside for a Power Forward. That should really help.

But the biggest thing they need is for Waiters to start hitting his mid-range to outside shots with more consistency. I think Waiters' upside is that he'll be a pretty good slasher, but I don't think he's the type of Guard that's going to be nails on spot-up jumpers.

mcaj22 · 07-11-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

As bad as Dwight was for the Lakers, you gotta feel for the Sixers and Bynum.

Seriously be happy the Lakers didnt lose two young good prospects (not like they have any) and an All Star guard with 0 return.

**RealSNR** · 07-11-2013, 09:45 AM

Welcome to another edition of Wolves Corner.

I can't figure this team out. Flip clearly wants to acquire shooters (something Kahn was always clueless about) so with the extra space leftover from the Kirilenko opt out, he dances around with letting Ridnour leave and signs... Corey Brewer.... with that money.

It's like nothing was learned from the past two frustrating years. In general, a lineup can and often thrives with only one bad shooter on the floor at a time. Martin, Love, and Pekovic are all good shooters (in the percentage of shots that they take, that is... Pekovic is a decent free throw shooter and can hit 10-15 foot jumpers if he needs to). Rubio is still kind of terrible. He's our bad shooter... inconsistent on lay ups, occasionally airballs stuff that's wide open. And then we get Corey Brewer, who only further complicates the logjam at 3.

Budinger, Brewer, Derrick Williams (possibly? If Adelman isn't sick enough of his shit). Those are the guys we might have available. More often than not Derrick will be coming off the bench for Love and/or Pekovic if they want to go smaller. Brewer may be the perfect replacement for Kirilenko's defensive capabilities but he's ****ing awful and useless on offense. His on strength? Passing. Which we have Rubio for. It makes zero sense to have Rubio and Brewer on the court at the same time for very long, which hampers the effectiveness of both players unfortunately.

We're going to be doing quite a bit of relying on Chase Budinger, which I'm not too keen on. Brewer just isn't a good fit for this team. As much as it pains me to say this, I'd legitimately rather have Ridnour. And I ****ing hate Luke Ridnour.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-11-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

And I ****ing hate Luke Ridnour.

Luke Ridnour's mom hates Luke Ridnour.

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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2400208	Welcome to another edition of Wolves Corner. I can't figure this team out. Flip clearly wants to acquire shooters (something Kahn was always clueless about) so with the extra space leftover from the Kirilenko opt out, he dances around with letting Ridnour leave and signs... Corey Brewer.... with that money. It's like nothing was learned from the past two frustrating years. In general, a lineup can and often thrives with only one bad shooter on the floor at a time. Martin, Love, and Pekovic are all good shooters (in the percentage of shots that they take, that is... Pekovic is a decent free throw shooter and can hit 10-15 foot jumpers if he needs to). Rubio is still kind of terrible. He's our bad shooter... inconsistent on lay ups, occasionally airballs stuff that's wide open. And then we get Corey Brewer, who only further complicates the logjam at 3. Budinger, Brewer, Derrick Williams (possibly? If Adelman isn't sick enough of his shit). Those are the guys we might have available. More often than not Derrick will be coming off the bench for Love and/or Pekovic if they want to go smaller. Brewer may be the perfect replacement for Kirilenko's defensive capabilities but he's **ing awful and useless on offense. His on strength? Passing. Which we have Rubio for. It makes zero sense to have Rubio and Brewer on the court at the same time for very long, which hampers the effectiveness of both players unfortunately. We're going to be doing quite a bit of relying on Chase Budinger, which I'm not too keen on. Brewer just isn't a good fit for this team. As much as it pains me to say this, I'd legitimately rather have Ridnour. And I **ing hate Luke Ridnour.
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