Chiefs Since we are ready to throw out Thiggy why not go grab Cassel - Page 2

Red Dawg · 12-18-2008, 09:26 PM

in FA? No way they tag him for 8 mil. We've got the cash, he's young, got the size, the arm and has a full year under his belt. That's better to build around at this point than a junior class qb with no experience. Granted our team is less talented than the Pats but he will only get better and would probably jump at the chance to call a team his own.

I like Thiggy but he doesn't have the size and strength of a Manning type player. We could probably get a good pick for him and keep Gray as a back up.

sedated · 12-18-2008, 09:43 PM

Thigpen has showed potential, and has lifted the offense, but hasnt proven to be a complete "great" QB yet.

As Mitch said, you could win 7 or 8 games in 2009 with TT, but can you win 12, 13, 14 games and a SB in 2010 or 2011 with him?

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

They are running the same system we are.

Shotgun 75+% of the time.

Well when you have the most gifted WR of all time and the best slot WR in the game, it makes it an easy system to run.

I think they could run just about any offensive system and be fine other than power run playaction cause their RBs suck.

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

Thigpen has showed potential, and has lifted the offense, but hasnt proven to be a complete "great" QB yet.

As Mitch said, you could win 7 or 8 games in 2009 with TT, but can you win 12, 13, 14 games and a SB in 2010 or 2011 with him?

For the record have you seen the schedule next year if they won 7 games it would be a miracle.

sedated · 12-18-2008, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

For the record have you seen the schedule next year if they won 7 games it would be a miracle.

everyone makes assumptions on strength of schedule based on the previous year, but it never turns out that way. the NFL is so up and down.

Who thought Miami would be a playoff team coming into this year?

Go back and look at the predictions for KC's 2008 record at the end of last year.
Raiders - 2 wins
Falcons - win
Jets - win
Titans - win (hahaha)
Saints - win
Bills - win

jspchief · 12-18-2008, 09:51 PM

They'll tag him. $8-10 mil with no strings is a cheap insurance policy for Brady, who won't be ready at season's start.

Mecca · 12-18-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

everyone makes assumptions on strength of schedule based on the previous year, but it never turns out that way. the NFL is so up and down.

Who thought Miami would be a playoff team coming into this year?

Go back and look at the predictions for KC's 2008 record at the end of last year.
Raiders 2 wins
Falcons - win
Jets - win
Titans - win (hahaha)
Saints - win
Bills - win

It involves the NFC East and AFC North...

sedated · 12-18-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It involves the NFC East and AFC North...

I've learned, when it comes to the National Football League, I never count my eggs before they crumble.

Cormac · 12-18-2008, 09:56 PM

I'm not convinced TT is a real QBOTF but he has earned the right to stay on. I see no reason to kick him to the curb and bring in another prospect like Cassell. At least we know what TT is capable of. Cassel is a huge ? already, let alone if he is removed from NE.

Besides, this is all a moot point. It will all change 180 degrees if we get a new coaching staff.

ohiobronco2 · 12-18-2008, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

No..just No, Cassell is a product of playing with 2 of the best WR's in the league and a great system.

This. Give people some more time to look at film and pickup on his tendencies. Can anybody say Derek Anderson?

Reerun_KC · 12-18-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

This. Give people some more time to look at film and pickup on his tendencies. Can anybody say Derek Anderson?

Anyone remember the one year wonder whom was Scott Mitchell.. I am sure Detriot fans do...

No need to sign the one year wonder because we are scared shitless to draft and develop a QB...

RippedmyFlesh · 12-18-2008, 10:01 PM

If I were Cassell I would go to minnesota unless detroit offered sick money.

sedated · 12-18-2008, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

Can anybody say Derek Anderson?

I can.

And did.

On page 1.

DJ's left nut · 12-18-2008, 10:14 PM

Cassel has all of Thigpens warts with none of his mobility.

Cassel is inaccurate on intermediate routes.

Cassel can't throw a deep ball to save his life (can't even throw a deep out well, Thigpen can at least pull that off).

Cassel is a system QB who hasn't ever played under center.

Each and every single knock on Tyler Thigpen can be said about Cassel.

**petegz28** · 12-18-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

Who's throwing out Thigpen? Even if we draft Stafford or Bradford or any QB anywhere in this draft I'd keep #4. He'd be my starter going into camp and hopefully into the season. Why should we burn bridges and why should we put all our eggs in one basket?

PhilFree

Cause Thigy is not "their guy", of course.

ohiobronco2 · 12-18-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

I can.

And did.

On page 1.

Sorry, I'm a little slow.

12-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4782858	Since we are ready to throw out Thiggy why not go grab Cassel in FA? No way they tag him for 8 mil. We've got the cash, he's young, got the size, the arm and has a full year under his belt. That's better to build around at this point than a junior class qb with no experience. Granted our team is less talented than the Pats but he will only get better and would probably jump at the chance to call a team his own. I like Thiggy but he doesn't have the size and strength of a Manning type player. We could probably get a good pick for him and keep Gray as a back up.
Posts: 30,361

12-18-2008, 09:51 PM	#20
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	They'll tag him. $8-10 mil with no strings is a cheap insurance policy for Brady, who won't be ready at season's start. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
Posts: 27,207

12-18-2008, 09:56 PM	#23
Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not convinced TT is a real QBOTF but he has earned the right to stay on. I see no reason to kick him to the curb and bring in another prospect like Cassell. At least we know what TT is capable of. Cassel is a huge ? already, let alone if he is removed from NE. Besides, this is all a moot point. It will all change 180 degrees if we get a new coaching staff.
Posts: 2,406

12-18-2008, 10:01 PM	#26
RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	If I were Cassell I would go to minnesota unless detroit offered sick money.
Posts: 4,848

12-18-2008, 10:14 PM	#28
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3029099	Cassel has all of Thigpens warts with none of his mobility. Cassel is inaccurate on intermediate routes. Cassel can't throw a deep ball to save his life (can't even throw a deep out well, Thigpen can at least pull that off). Cassel is a system QB who hasn't ever played under center. Each and every single knock on Tyler Thigpen can be said about Cassel.
Posts: 60,233