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Old 09-29-2018, 01:06 PM  
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Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

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Old 09-29-2018, 03:13 PM   #76
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Makes sense but Berry is a locker room leader players look up to him. The Chiefs go nuclear on this could start problems. How Berry has handled this has lost me some respect for the guy. There may be more to the story but its obvious his contract obviously has a no disclosure to the team on release of injury info.
His leadership is useless. Our defense is ****ing terrible with him standing there on the sideline contributing nothing of substance.
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:25 PM   #77
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His leadership is useless. Our defense is ****ing terrible with him standing there on the sideline contributing nothing of substance.
His "leadership" has led to a bottom 3 ranked defense...

Shit, have him retire and make him a coach/ LR cheerleader while he rehabs.
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:25 PM   #78
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:27 PM   #79
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Reid and the chiefs are limited in what they can say due to HIPPA. Its Berry's right to chose what can be disclosed about his health.
Wrong.

The HIPAA privacy rules only apply to “covered entities.” Under HIPAA, a covered entity is either a health plan, health care clearinghouse or a self-insured health care provider.

The NFL is not a “covered entity” in terms of HIPAA.
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I actually have this. No joke.

It got to the point where I could barely wear shoes because of the bump that grew on my heel. So...

My podiatrist recommended surgery, and that's what we did. They actually severed the Achilles, removed the mass, and re-attached it. By surgically severing the achilles, the recovery time would be less.

I would guess he plays through the pain this year (when he's ready), do the surgery first day after the Super Bowl, and then he COULD conceivably be ready for next season.

Just my experience.
Does the pain subside at all without surgery? If not, I don't see how he comes back and plays unless they're holding him out because we're 3-0.

I just don't understand why he didn't get surgery in August when these issues started.
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His leadership is useless. Our defense is ****ing terrible with him standing there on the sideline contributing nothing of substance.
I dont dissagree at all but its how his teammates react to going hardline on Berry. I dunno maybe they are young enough it wont be a problem at all. If it was me I would tell Berry to attempt a go at it on the field or get surgery. If he wont then NFI him.
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I dont dissagree at all but its how his teammates react to going hardline on Berry. I dunno maybe they are young enough it wont be a problem at all. If it was me I would tell Berry to attempt a go at it on the field or get surgery. If he wont then NFI him.
They would cry about it for about a week then get over it.
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Does the pain subside at all without surgery? If not, I don't see how he comes back and plays unless they're holding him out because we're 3-0.

I just don't understand why he didn't get surgery in August when these issues started.
For me it got progressively worse. But I'm not a world class athlete with unlimited resources. So it seems like they could treat the pain, specialize his shoes with extra heel cushion, and he can play through it.

I was told that going a long period without fixing it does increase the chances of rupturing the achilles because of increased pressure on the tendon. But again, I'm not a world-class athlete. It helps me understand why he's been out this long though. It's extremely painful.

But I think he will play again this year, though. Then maybe surgery.
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I know this. If he goes another year and doesn't play then KC needs to reach a settlement and move on. You can have this happen again. They can come back even when fixed.
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If he had the surgery in August, he probably would have missed most or all of this season because they have to alter/sever the achilles to get to it...
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