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Old 11-29-2012, 10:02 AM  
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Post your top 5 rock bands of all time

I'm interested in seeing what era most people's favorites come from and if there are more US bands or UK bands (or Scandinavian if you're Reaper16)

Clean sweep for the Brits for me.

1. The Beatles
2. Rolling Stones
3. Led Zep
4. Pink Floyd
5. The Who

Define band however you want. If you want to throw Elvis on your list, do it.

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Old 11-29-2012, 04:39 PM   #346
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Weird how? Too-weird-for-a-public-forum weird?
Nah, just like ****ing eccentric. Weird little miniature dog lover stuff. Almost like a caricature of a British dude.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:40 PM   #347
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Nah, just like ****ing eccentric. Weird little miniature dog lover stuff. Almost like a caricature from a movie.
Not surprising.

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Old 11-29-2012, 04:43 PM   #348
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1. Beatles
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:48 PM   #349
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No particular order -

The Rolling Stones
ZZ Top
CCR
The Eagles
Stevie Ray Vaughn

I guess. Kind of hard to do a top 5 on this subject.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:48 PM   #350
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Eh, I might be able to shed some light or background on some artists, recordings, etc. but I'm not going to bash anyone's musical taste.

Music connects with the listener on a very deep level, something that goes beyond description. If Ratt or MC5's or Eric B. & Rakim is what makes you happy, that's great! It's not for me to judge anyone's musical taste and interest.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:50 PM   #351
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Since there are a lot of Beatles fans here, I have a question:

If you could only have four of their albums, which would you choose?
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Hey! Ratt speaks to my soul.
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Old 11-29-2012, 04:51 PM   #353
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At the time, the Rockman was revolutionary. People could play guitar without an amp, whether it was plugging into a live console, an SSL or a pair of headphones. The sound of the Rockman inspired musicians, composers and producers to create music that had previously not existed.
I know...they were pretty hot.

Aerosmith's Done With Mirrors is an example of a great album 'Ruined By Rockman'

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And Hysteria is one of the most respected albums ever made to this day. It's sound is extremely unique. The production values are amazing. While that sound isn't for every artist and every band, it works for those songs and that band.
Sure - and the Rick Allen situation lent itself even further to that recording method and it contributed to that record's overall sound and ambiance, which is way different from the first two, or even the one Mutt did before.

Not dogging it - I just prefer the sound and the playing of the first three albums over Hysteria or anything after. I know Phil Collen is a great guitarist, but without a whole bunch of Steve Clark, the thing falls flat to me. Maybe it's no coincidence that I think the best song on Hysteria is 'Armageddon It.'

maybe, indeed...



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That's really not true. An overwhelming number of albums have been recorded with amps recorded in amp closets or surrounded by Gogo's to deaden the room sound. In the 70's, guys taped terry cloth towels to their drum heads to deaden them, an enormous number of bass guitar tracks were recorded direct into the console and not through an amp and guitars have been recorded direct forever.

Listen to most 70's rock records and you're hearing damped drums, DI'd bass and guitar amps covered with Gobo's and in some cases, blankets.
Hey, I dig that - everyone did what needed to be done to get it done. That resulted in a lot of different sounds, awesome records.

Take Fleetwood Mac for instance - I love Rumours, Tusk, Mirage, etc. And those records are overdub city.

We're making a record right now, and I have 3 or 4 bass signals at a time and one of them is a direct through a preamp in case we wind up using a plug-in during the mixing stage...I'm just trying NOT to.

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It's "dated" at all. It was innvotavite. If he had recorded Hysteria with Marshalls, live drums, etc. instead of Rockman's, Linn and Oberheim drum machines while recording each vocal take into a Synclavier, I seriously doubt that the record would have long standing impact today.
well, they couldn't use live drums, not completely. And yes, agreed, though Hysteria was probably a bad example to use.

A better one would be 'Dirty White Boy' by Foreigner - LOVE the song. Could have a ballsier guitar. The sheen washes away the ballsiness. I guess that's why I always dig the Stones; even on their poppiest dance numbers, ballads, whatever - guitar is loud and clear, front and center.

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I disagree. That's like saying that orchestral musicians should play their instruments perfectly, that it somehow takes away from the music or the art to use world class musicians for film scores and orchestral and chamber music.

There's a difference between a "raw" performance and imperfection. Imperfection occurs when the players aren't top notch or world class. I can guarantee you that you're not walking into a session, whether it be a 70's police show or The Family Guy if you're not a world class musician that's incapable of making mistakes.

Capturing the rawness of a band is completely different, although that was as rare in 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's as it is today.

At the end of the day, the job is to entertain the audience. That's all that matter.
Well, you can't suck. That's a given...

But it seems that no one is interested in capturing the 'rawness' of a band anymore. It's disheartening.


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You don't have to like it. But you should appreciate the effort and appreciate the beauty of what they accomplished as a band and what Mutt Lange accomplished as a producer.

Much like what Terry Manning achieved with Eliminator, it's a very unique sound and unique record.
I love Eliminator. I can appreciate what Mutt has done...but I hear the symmetry of the 'Mutt Lange Sound' through every artist he's worked with (including Shania) sans AC/DC. And to me, a producer needs to bring out what their artists sound like (Brenden O'Brien) and not impart their sound on their artist (Caveman Shirley).

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Well, I have to disagree with this. If you have properly maintained guitars and amps, there shouldn't be any variance in recorded sound from day to day. That's the job of the amp and guitar tech and if it doesn't happen, they're fired.
It will sound slightly different every time no matter what. A lot of ears can't even tell the difference from day to day, but it's there. It's a natural byproduct of analog gear and acoustical physics.

The producer knows and can hear...that's a big reasons why even rock producers went to Rockmans and triggered drums...and why they do plug-ins and triggered drums now. Control, absolute control.

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If you want different sounds every day, have 20 or more guitars, basses, amps and drums on hand.
We got that covered, too.
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To be honest, I kinda like the MC5.

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Since there are a lot of Beatles fans here, I have a question:

If you could only have four of their albums, which would you choose?
Just my personal:

1. Abbey Road
2. Revolver
3. Rubber Soul
4. Sgt. Pepper
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Since there are a lot of Beatles fans here, I have a question:

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Revolver
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White Album
Abbey Road
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Just my personal:

1. Abbey Road
2. Revolver
3. Rubber Soul
4. Sgt. Pepper
not bad...White Album gets the nod over Pepper by about 35 minutes or so
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