KSU KSU vs Alabama for Natl Champion - Who wins? - Page 47

Chiefshrink · 10-21-2012, 08:54 AM

After watching KSU last night and granted it was against an overrated sports media hyped WVU team that has a Def ranked 115, however Geno is not overrated, he just can't do it all. KSU's game all around was just phenomenal and especially their D that I believe is just as good as Alabama.

Who wins this potential Natl Championship game?

**Reaper16** · 11-11-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

But with Bama's schedule, we're not talking about the conference as a whole. They haven't played Florida, they haven't played Georgia (yet) and they haven't played South Carolina. They've only played two above average teams in the SEC and lost to one of them at home. The SEC is definitely strong at the top, but the middle to lower levels of the conference are worse that usual and certainly no better than other big conferences.

Worse than usual? Or could it be that there are more superb teams in the SEC than usual? Nearly half of the conference is currently ranked in the top 10 of the BCS standings. That is holy shit territory right there. The SEC is not only decidedly not having a down year, they're having a year to put all other conferences to shame. Absolute shame.

Raiderhater · 11-11-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It didn't burn when it happened to Boise State or TCU. I'm sure the country will learn to get over it if it means the best team from the best conference gets in.

You are comparing apples to oranges. And after last year's abomination, there will be a very major out cry if a Bama goes back to back seasons of losing a home game and playing the NC.

KC_Connection · 11-11-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Oregon defense has given up a respectable amount of points in all games but two. I don't think they're nearly as bad as you're portraying them. Sure, they gave up tons to the Trojans, but that USC team is Oregon's matchup nightmare.

Which may just have something to do with playing mediocre to bad teams for most of the season (the 2nd highest team they've played on the Sagarin ratings is #21 ASU). Stanford and Oregon State will provide tougher tests in the next few weeks, I hope, but I don't think anybody will get a firm grasp of how good they are until they get outside of their P12 bubble.

KC_Connection · 11-11-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

You are comparing apples to oranges. And after last year's abomination, there will be a very major out cry if a Bama goes back to back seasons of losing a home game and playing the NC.

It's an abomination when the best team in the country wins the national title over the second best team in the country? I'm afraid we have different definitions of abomination.

**Reaper16** · 11-11-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Which may just have something to do with playing mediocre to bad teams for most of the season (the 2nd highest team they've played on the Sagarin ratings is #21 ASU). Stanford and Oregon State will provide tougher tests in the next few weeks, I hope, but I don't think anybody will get a firm grasp of how good they are until they get outside of their P12 bubble.

Probably. But that too is an argument that people here try to use against Alabama.

Raiderhater · 11-12-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's an abomination when the best team in the country wins the national title over the second best team in the country? I'm afraid we have different definitions of abomination.

LSU had already beaten Bama AT Bama. Then Bama beats LSU on a neutral field. Soooo, which team was the best and which team was second?

As I said, abomination.

KC_Connection · 11-12-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Probably. But that too is an argument that people here try to use against Alabama.

Not me. I don't underestimate the grind of a SEC football schedule. It's sort of like the BE in basketball in which it is impossible to assume anybody would go undefeated (or what the BE used to be anyway).

KC_Connection · 11-12-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

LSU had already beaten Bama AT Bama. Then Bama beats LSU on a neutral field. Soooo, which team was the best and which team was second?

As I said, abomination.

Should we call the 2007 Patriots as good as the 2007 Giants too while we're at it? Last I checked, playoff games meant more than regular season ones.

Raiderhater · 11-12-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Should we call the 2007 Patriots as good as the 2007 Giants too while we're at it? Last I checked, playoff games meant more than regular season ones.

Once again comparing apples to oranges. The NFL has a playoff system that brought those two teams back together. The current BCS does not.

BIG_DADDY · 11-12-2012, 12:16 AM

Ducks!!!

KC_Connection · 11-12-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Once again comparing apples to oranges. The NFL has a playoff system that brought those two teams back together. The current BCS does not.

Not at all, it's a very apt analogy. When you reach the playoffs, the outcomes in the regular season cease to be relevant (or else the 2007 Patriots would be co-SB champs with the Giants). And yes, the BCS National Championship game is the current playoff system in college football. Everything before that game is erased and you're left with two teams (who are, in theory, the best two teams) battling for the right to be the best of that season.

Raiderhater · 11-12-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Ducks!!!

Quacks

Raiderhater · 11-12-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Not at all, it's a very apt analogy. When you reach the playoffs, the outcomes in the regular season cease to be relevant (or else the 2007 Patriots would be co-SB champs with the Giants). And yes, the BCS National Championship game is the current playoff system in college football. Everything before that game is erased and you're left with two teams battling for the right to be the best of that season.

JFC. Did you really just compare the NFL playoff system to the BCS? You are about as stupid as TheGaurdian.

BIG_DADDY · 11-12-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Quacks

I am pulling for a Ducks vs KSU final.

KC_Connection · 11-12-2012, 12:23 AM

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JFC. Did you really just compare the NFL playoff system to the BCS? You are about as stupid as TheGaurdian.

Yes, to the extent that they are both playoff systems, they both decide champions, and they both erase/render irrelevant regular season results (which is what we were talking about). What isn't clear about that?

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