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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:57 AM   #151
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:57 AM   #152
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Seriously? Leo Nunez (AKA Juan Carlos Oviedo) immediately became the closer for the Marlins. His save totals for the first 3 years with the team were 26, 30, and 36. That doesn't sound like shit to me. However, Mike Jacobs, the guy the Royals got for Nunez, WAS shit.

Face it: You are holding Reid and Dorsey to a different standard than GMDM. You shouldn't have brought up GMDM.
Yes. Because a ****ing relief pitcher in baseball is the same as an NFL Qb. So you're right. I do hold the Chiefs to a higher standard in obtaining a QB than I am in the Royals trading a relief pitcher who most felt his body would fall apart over time.

I'm not going to make this a Chiefs/Royals pissing match because only a moran can't see the differences between a cash strapped MLB franchise and and the Chiefs. Reid/Dorsey go ass raped in this trade and only the biggest of homers would feel differently.

They should really consider bringing in someone that is able to evaluate player and draft pick trade values. While Reid has a nice history as a coach and Dorsey as college talent evaluator they could use some help in valuing picks and NFL player value.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:58 AM   #153
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I think some of you are looking at this wrong...

The 9ers aren't saying we only believe Alex will get the Chiefs to 8-8 and then we want a 2nd. They're saying the Chiefs were a VERY bad team last season and no matter what they do, with Alex on the team, the Chiefs will at least go 8-8 and that is worth a 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:00 AM   #154
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I think some of you are looking at this wrong...

The 9ers aren't saying we only believe Alex will get the Chiefs to 8-8 and then we want a 2nd. They're saying the Chiefs were a VERY bad team last season and no matter what they do, with Alex on the team, the Chiefs will at least go 8-8 and that is worth a 2nd.
wow, the poop smells differently if you hold your nose

what is the value of 8-8 to us, again?

besides insuring we won't be in position to draft a risk-free QB?
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:02 AM   #155
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I think some of you are looking at this wrong...

The 9ers aren't saying we only believe Alex will get the Chiefs to 8-8 and then we want a 2nd. They're saying the Chiefs were a VERY bad team last season and no matter what they do, with Alex on the team, the Chiefs will at least go 8-8 and that is worth a 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:04 AM   #156
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I think some of you are looking at this wrong...

The 9ers aren't saying we only believe Alex will get the Chiefs to 8-8 and then we want a 2nd. They're saying the Chiefs were a VERY bad team last season and no matter what they do, with Alex on the team, the Chiefs will at least go 8-8 and that is worth a 2nd.
The Niners would have made that 4-12 if the Chiefs would have taken it dumbass.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:05 AM   #157
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wow, the poop smells differently if you hold your nose

what is the value of 8-8 to us, again?

besides insuring we won't be in position to draft a risk-free QB?
The difference between wanting to have a paper bag over your head when you go to a game and knowing that your team is at least average?

You're locked on the 8-8 number. Just because the manufacturer of your car warrenties the car for 100k doesn't mean you won't get twice that.

In this case, if you don't you don't pay the 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #158
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The difference between wanting to have a paper bag over your head when you go to a game and knowing that your team is at least average?

You're locked on the 8-8 number. Just because the manufacturer of your car warrenties the car for 100k doesn't mean you won't get twice that.

In this case, if you don't you don't pay the 2nd.
so we paid a 2nd for the value of "knowing your team is at least average"



sounds about right
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #159
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The Niners would have made that 4-12 if the Chiefs would have taken it dumbass.
I didn't know you could read Reid and Dorsey's minds. Wow....I guess we'll have to come to you moving forward for insight.
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The difference between wanting to have a paper bag over your head when you go to a game and knowing that your team is at least average?

You're locked on the 8-8 number. Just because the manufacturer of your car warrenties the car for 100k doesn't mean you won't get twice that.

In this case, if you don't you don't pay the 2nd.
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The difference between wanting to have a paper bag over your head when you go to a game and knowing that your team is at least average?

You're locked on the 8-8 number. Just because the manufacturer of your car warrenties the car for 100k doesn't mean you won't get twice that.

In this case, if you don't you don't pay the 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:13 AM   #164
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so we paid a 2nd for the value of "knowing your team is at least average"



sounds about right
Paid a 2nd for knowing that the team is at least average because one guy was added to the team and not one other change made...oh and what was the record last season?

Q: How many teams would pay 2 2nds for one guy that would guarantee them 6 additional wins in a season?

Answer: Most of them
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If we're sitting at 7-8 with one game to go I'd sure be playing our 3rd string the last game thats for sure.
That seems pretty reasonable.
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