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Old 10-07-2012, 09:01 PM  
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There was more, a lot more, and it boiled down to this: Winston was embarrassed by Chiefs fans. He was sickened by them. He wanted no part of them just as virulently as they seem to want no part of him and his teammates.
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What a jarring change. What a sign of just how wide the gulf has grown under the stewardship of co-owner, CEO and chairman Clark Hunt and his hand-picked general manager, Scott Pioli, between a once-beloved team and its once-celebrated fans

How to pass out the blame? Is it, in part, because Clark Hunt seems as distant from this team as his dad seemed connected to it? Because where Lamar walked Arrowhead with a folksy connectedness and everyman-look, Clark travels with a personal assistant who seems to be trying too hard to play a character from the movie Wall Street? Because Pioli’s ego — the one that seems to have kept his $55-million quarterback in the driver’s seat even as he drove it toward this divide — is as bad for reaching fans as it has been at winning football games? Because two decades is too long for anyone to wait for a playoff win? Because we take sports much, much too seriously? Because sports, as much as anything, becomes one of our primary means of escapes in tough times and an unhealthy fixation when historically-difficult economic times descend?
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Is that what we see in Winston’s rant, the fans’ bloodlust for one of their own and the unlikability and underperformance of the key people who have pushed us to this point? Have we seen an irrevocable change to the special bond between the Kansas City Chiefs and Kansas City?
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:39 PM   #76
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Lamar was alive when the stadium deal was reached though.

Lease agreements can be broken as well..
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:44 PM   #77
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Or "we" lose if the team winds up moving to LA in light of poor ticket sales and an unfriendly local environment...
Your and idiot.

If they run it like this, we win.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:44 PM   #78
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Pioli put Cassel in that position. No one else. If he cares about Casshole like a ****ing son, he should have benched him when the fans were getting too rowdy. Or when, oh, I don't know... he became Captain Interception.

No excuses here. Cassel should have been benched, and he wasn't. When you place that kind of shit on a fanbase desperate to break out of the cycle of mediocrity, shit like this will happen.

**** Cassel. **** Pioli. **** Hunt. **** Reiter. **** Winston.

Anybody I'm missing?

Tyson jackson with the THIRD OVERALL FUKKING PICK of the draft. Some teams get franchise quarterbacks like Matt Ryan within that range, others get freaks of nature who can rush the passer like Von Miller, we got a fat 3/4 DE who doesn't penetrate the line, never makes any kind of impact when the opposing team drops back to pass. Ropati Petuitua (spelling?) had 2 sacks and 6 tackles when he replaced Dorsey in the SD game.

Could throw hillis in there when we could of tried to sign Michael Bush. Hillis was bitching and crying after the Atlanta game and then proceeded to fumble on the 1 yard line against Buffalo at the end of the first half.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:47 PM   #79
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Lamar was alive when the stadium deal was reached though.

Lease agreements can be broken as well..
This is not a serious discussion point.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:48 PM   #80
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I don't even think there's a need for an exception for Cassel. I don't dislike Cassel any more than I dislike Jackie Battle. He's an underperformer at his position that simply needs to be upgraded. Cassel's only crime was taking the paycheck, and I can't blame him for that.

He needed to be benched, but all the blame for the situation lies with Pioli.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:58 PM   #81
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Chiefs veterans and alleged team leaders only getting outraged when it involves fans... apparently their historically bad showing this season doesn't generate the same level of passion.

What a gutless fraud of a team.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:08 PM   #82
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You've essentially been absent for years, with the exception of when this team is getting it's ass kicked.

You're still the same pathetic, scab of a raider fan you've always been.




Winston hasn't been in Kansas City long enough to see his first snow, he doesn't speak for this team and he sure as hell doesn't know shit about this fan base.


Winston, Piss off.

Yep.

I'm still trying to figure out how Winston knows why people were cheering or how he was somehow endowed with the ability to know that EVERYONE at Arrowhead today was celebrating anything but Quinn getting a shot at QB.

What's really amazing to me is that the players seem to have adopted the same coddling behavior as the coach and GM. At least Winston seems to think it's more important not to hurt Cassel's feelings then it is to win and that's damn discouraging.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:11 PM   #83
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NFL Network and ESPN are on total damage control regarding what Winston and Delfer said.....it's almost comical....No the fans were cheering for Brady Quinn? Really? lol
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My little skepticism I had concerning Clark was cheap was laid to rest after watching "A/The Football Life, Cleveland Browns" on NFL Network. During one of Dimitroff's interviews he mentioned they rented some place, a house I think, anyhoots Pee-holy was so cheap he didn't want to run the A/C or heat during the day cause they weren't there. That was only one of the things, there was some thing about not buying food either. I'll pay more attention next time.

So it could very well be that Clark gave him a blank check but he's the one being cheap. I can't help but wonder.
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NOBODY cheered a player getting hurt...they cheered the new beginning that was possibly starting and the end of a failed era.
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I used to play in a fantasy baseball league with reiter a couple years ago. He's got this great story of having bill belichicks home phone number on his cell phone and then going swimming with said phone in his pocket. Tragic. Bills a stand up guy, spent years at the star.
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I never hated Carl this much. Pioli is a cancer to this organization and Clark Hunt could care less. Crennel, Cassel, Egoli and all of the other New England rejects need to leave town and Hunt needs to sell this team to someone that actually gives a shit about the team and the community.
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Yep.

I'm still trying to figure out how Winston knows why people were cheering or how he was somehow endowed with the ability to know that EVERYONE at Arrowhead today was celebrating anything but Quinn getting a shot at QB.

What's really amazing to me is that the players seem to have adopted the same coddling behavior as the coach and GM. At least Winston seems to think it's more important not to hurt Cassel's feelings then it is to win and that's damn discouraging.
Sure it has been stated but he knows he ****ed up and at least he shows some leadership qualities compared to our current right 53.
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I used to play in a fantasy baseball league with reiter a couple years ago. He's got this great story of having bill belichicks home phone number on his cell phone and then going swimming with said phone in his pocket. Tragic. Bills a stand up guy, spent years at the star.
Guess he is illiterate too. He couldn't look at his phone bill for the number or was it bugged. and it took a swim on purpose?
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