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Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

By MICHAEL J. KNOWLES

May 10, 2018
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The Iran Deal in tatters, three American hostages safely returned from North Korea, which now offers to denuclearize and end the Korean War after 68 years, five top ISIS leaders captured — and that’s just this week. On the domestic front, in just a year-and-a-half, landmark tax reform has made the U.S. more competitive, fewer illegal aliens are entering our country than at any time in the past 17 years, and dozens of federal judges have taken the bench to defend the rule of law and our constitutional system. According to a poll from CNN of all outlets, more Americans today think the country is headed in the right direction than at any time in over a decade.

The Left unsurprisingly remains steadfast in their opposition to President Trump. What’s disappointing is that a handful of “Never Trump” Republicans remain equally unwilling to admit the obvious: Donald Trump is a good president. Indeed, the remaining anti-Trump voices on the Right seem more desperate than ever to take down the president, if only to prove that, actually, they were right all along.

An oft-abused Ralph Waldo Emerson saying comes to mind. Clumsy pedants misquote the transcendental essayist absurdly insisting, “Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” In reality Emerson wrote, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” The distinction is crucial. Logic requires consistency, but logical premises can be proved wrong. The madman who is convinced he's a banana and therefore peels off his own skin follows a consistent logic; the trouble is that his premise isn’t true.

People are stubborn. More precisely, they easily fall prey to commitment bias, whereby individuals become more convinced of their position once they have declared it publicly. The more people defend their opinions, the more difficult those opinions are to dislodge even as evidence mounts to rebut them. Foolish ideologues, presented with evidence that reality contradicts their theories, reject reality for their theories.

Some conservatives and Republicans refused to vote for President Trump in 2016, and they did so for a variety of reasons. Some feared Trump would turn out to be a left-wing wolf in sheep’s clothing. Others insisted that Trump’s rough speech and boorish personal behavior would preclude his governing as a conservative and diminish the United States in the eyes of her citizens and the rest of the world. After 17 months, not only have none of those fears come to pass, but indeed all available evidence points in precisely the opposite direction: excellent governance at home, peace through strength abroad, and a long-absent hopefulness in the hearts of Americans.

Reality has refuted the “Never Trump” premises. That fact ought to be a cause for celebration among all but those who wish our country ill. Nevertheless, some still stubbornly hope President Trump will fail our country so they can avoid the indignity of having been wrong. But changing one’s mind in the light of new evidence is no vice; and consistency in the defense of fantasy is no virtue.

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Old 05-12-2018, 09:32 AM   #16
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I think he is accomplishing a lot. I wish he were better at being President. His greatest flaw is an inability and what appears to be a lack of interest in healing the dives we have in our people.

But, not all on him, its obvious that nothing he could do would bring the hate filled democrat party to become a constructive partner in the healing that we so badly need.

I actually believe we have arrived at a new normal where the left accomplishes nothing in their dedication to being the obstructionist party made up odd multiple odd unhappy, hateful people who define themselves in small minority groups.

History will see Trump as a very successful President but not as a man who will ever be seen as a popular man.
Honest question: What has Donald Trump done to divide this country?

-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans

-Protect our borders?
-Bring back jobs to America?
-Take cuts for everyone?
-Out of horrible TPP
-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam
-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama
-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China
-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)
-Shutting off Cuba
-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China
-Touting the military and police all the time
-Lowest black unemployment in history
-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds
-GDP at 3%
-Coming out of horrible Iran deal
-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!
-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.
-Renegotiating NAFTA
-Building the wall
-Stock market stability and growth
-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum
-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.
-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively

This guy made a lot of promises and in just 16 short months he is knocking off his "to-do" list like nobody's business.

If he was a Democrat, they would already have given him the Nobel Peace Prize, an Oscar, and built a giant statue in DC for him.

This guy is kicking ass.

Yeah he is sloppy and un-PC often but what you get is what you see. No bullshit politician speak.

I love what he is doing.
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Old 05-12-2018, 09:39 AM   #17
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Honest question: What has Donald Trump done to divide this country?

-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans

-Protect our borders?
-Bring back jobs to America?
-Take cuts for everyone?
-Out of horrible TPP
-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam
-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama
-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China
-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)
-Shutting off Cuba
-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China
-Touting the military and police all the time
-Lowest black unemployment in history
-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds
-GDP at 3%
-Coming out of horrible Iran deal
-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!
-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.
-Renegotiating NAFTA
-Building the wall
-Stock market stability and growth
-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum
-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.
-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively

This guy made a lot of promises and in just 16 short months he is knocking off his "to-do" list like nobody's business.

If he was a Democrat, they would already have given him the Nobel Peace Prize, an Oscar, and built a giant statue in DC for him.

This guy is kicking ass.

Yeah he is sloppy and un-PC often but what you get is what you see. No bullshit politician speak.

I love what he is doing.


Nice list--Trump sure is different- but I like the results
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:26 AM   #18
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If he would reign in spending and quit screwing around in Syria, I'm ready to have his statue put in my front yard and barricade the road in front of the house to force all traffic to stop and pay homage to his image!!

Well, maybe not that far, but you get the point
Let's see how this sounds if it's translated into practical terms:
If he would rein in defense spending and cede Syria to Russia, Iran, and ISIS ...
That's what you mean, right?
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:40 AM   #19
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Honest question: What has Donald Trump done to divide this country?

-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans

-Protect our borders?
-Bring back jobs to America?
-Take cuts for everyone?
-Out of horrible TPP
-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam
-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama
-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China
-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)
-Shutting off Cuba
-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China
-Touting the military and police all the time
-Lowest black unemployment in history
-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds
-GDP at 3%
-Coming out of horrible Iran deal
-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!
-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.
-Renegotiating NAFTA
-Building the wall
-Stock market stability and growth
-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum
-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.
-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively

This guy made a lot of promises and in just 16 short months he is knocking off his "to-do" list like nobody's business.

If he was a Democrat, they would already have given him the Nobel Peace Prize, an Oscar, and built a giant statue in DC for him.

This guy is kicking ass.

Yeah he is sloppy and un-PC often but what you get is what you see. No bullshit politician speak.

I love what he is doing.
Okay. Granted. But pussy and racial things.
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:45 AM   #20
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Compared to what we, as a country, had to endure for the 8 years BEFORE Donald Trump - today is a walk in the park.

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Old 05-12-2018, 11:30 AM   #21
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-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans

If you first accept the premise America was not great.

-Protect our borders?

From who and at what expense? Immigration reform has been a subject everyone has a stake in, the question was always how to go about it. Apparently tearing families apart makes Trump's America feel safer?

-Bring back jobs to America?

Jobs have been "coming back" since Obama. The raw employment numbers don't tell the whole story such as jobs that pay above the poverty level, those working multiple part time jobs, recent college grads having to work jobs they are over qualified for...

-Take cuts for everyone?

Blow up the debt, mostly for the rich, and then try and grab social security to claim as a "balanced budget" solution.

-Out of horrible TPP

Now wants back in it

-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam

Not sure how this list is making him a great President, just a great President for his small base. That scam still participated in by the rest of the world as well as the most productive states in the US.

-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama

Shot insignificant targets the first time, didn't end chemical strikes. Warned Russia and everyone else, they were coming the second time so they could properly prepare.

-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China

Gave North Korea what they wanted, world standing they do not deserve (remember when you criticized Obama early in his Presidency for suggesting he would do the same thing?)

-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)

Uh huh. You expelled how many diplomats! That's not what I wanted!

-Shutting off Cuba

Yes, because that was a pressing issue.

-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China

"Working"? Sure. More like getting played.

-Touting the military and police all the time

Unless they are investigating him or having to offer condolence calls or slandering McCain

-Lowest black unemployment in history

Was already going down when he took office and still doesn't address the general employment situation as noted above.

-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds

OMG! You really believe that? So, its not about the internal outreach programs within the city starting to bear fruit, its because he made an empty and Unconstitutional threat to send in the Feds! Wow.

-GDP at 3%

I'll give him that for now even if the majority of the wealth still goes to the richest Americans.

-Coming out of horrible Iran deal

Yes, because we're safer on a more possible path to war

-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!

Don't know how this is more than a partisan observation. Seems like the exposing is going both ways.

-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.

Yes, what a tough guy!

-Renegotiating NAFTA

Is that all done?

-Building the wall

Repairing the old wall.

-Stock market stability and growth

Umm, seems like we've had some pretty big corrections.

-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum

Jesus is coming back soon!

-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.

Don't know how this is more than a partisan thing.

-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively

Yes, who needs that, when has deregulation ever steered us wrong?

Seems like a lot of things you listed divide us as a country: Judge appointments based on ideology, attacks on the environment for crony profit, immigration policy, punching back, funneling wealth to corporations and the wealthy. I'm not sure your definition of "country" is as inclusive as you think.
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-Make America great again seems to be a unifier for ALL Americans



If you first accept the premise America was not great.



-Protect our borders?



From who and at what expense? Immigration reform has been a subject everyone has a stake in, the question was always how to go about it. Apparently tearing families apart makes Trump's America feel safer?



-Bring back jobs to America?



Jobs have been "coming back" since Obama. The raw employment numbers don't tell the whole story such as jobs that pay above the poverty level, those working multiple part time jobs, recent college grads having to work jobs they are over qualified for...



-Take cuts for everyone?



Blow up the debt, mostly for the rich, and then try and grab social security to claim as a "balanced budget" solution.



-Out of horrible TPP



Now wants back in it



-Out of even worse Paris Accord scam



Not sure how this list is making him a great President, just a great President for his small base. That scam still participated in by the rest of the world as well as the most productive states in the US.



-Shot a missile into Syria so they knew we had a red line unlike Obama



Shot insignificant targets the first time, didn't end chemical strikes. Warned Russia and everyone else, they were coming the second time so they could properly prepare.



-Negotiating face to face with Kim Jung Un with pressure from China



Gave North Korea what they wanted, world standing they do not deserve (remember when you criticized Obama early in his Presidency for suggesting he would do the same thing?)



-Putting Russia on notice (quietly but he has)



Uh huh. You expelled how many diplomats! That's not what I wanted!



-Shutting off Cuba



Yes, because that was a pressing issue.



-Working on fixing trade imbalance with China



"Working"? Sure. More like getting played.



-Touting the military and police all the time



Unless they are investigating him or having to offer condolence calls or slandering McCain



-Lowest black unemployment in history



Was already going down when he took office and still doesn't address the general employment situation as noted above.



-Crime going down in Chicago finally after he warned he was sending in the Feds



OMG! You really believe that? So, its not about the internal outreach programs within the city starting to bear fruit, its because he made an empty and Unconstitutional threat to send in the Feds! Wow.



-GDP at 3%



I'll give him that for now even if the majority of the wealth still goes to the richest Americans.



-Coming out of horrible Iran deal



Yes, because we're safer on a more possible path to war



-Expose the mainstream media for the bias frauds they really are!



Don't know how this is more than a partisan observation. Seems like the exposing is going both ways.



-Punch back at his opponents unlike the weak spine RINO's and SWAMP creatures.



Yes, what a tough guy!



-Renegotiating NAFTA



Is that all done?



-Building the wall



Repairing the old wall.



-Stock market stability and growth



Umm, seems like we've had some pretty big corrections.



-Moving Israeli capital to Jeruselum



Jesus is coming back soon!



-Appointed Neil Gorsuch to Supreme Court and quietly has more conservative appointments going to district and federal courts than any POTUS in years.



Don't know how this is more than a partisan thing.



-Rolling back tons of over regulations including Dodd Frank that was PASSED legislatively



Yes, who needs that, when has deregulation ever steered us wrong?



Seems like a lot of things you listed divide us as a country: Judge appointments based on ideology, attacks on the environment for crony profit, immigration policy, punching back, funneling wealth to corporations and the wealthy. I'm not sure your definition of "country" is as inclusive as you think.


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North Korea dismantling nuke test site as we speak....Holy Fire Boy can't spin shit fast enough to keep up
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North Korea dismantling nuke test site as we speak....Holy Fire Boy can't spin shit fast enough to keep up


I’m on the record here if this NK stuff actually pans out Trump deserves the lion’s share of the credit. So WTF are you talking about?
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Let's see how this sounds if it's translated into practical terms:
If he would rein in defense spending and cede Syria to Russia, Iran, and ISIS ...
That's what you mean, right?
That would be silly of him. I don't think your interpretation is on.

What he means is that we should cede Syria to Syria.
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That would be silly of him. I don't think your interpretation is on.

What he means is that we should cede Syria to Syria.
That would indicate a serious misunderstanding of what's going on in the middle east, but you might be right.
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Can you imagine how much more he would get done IF the GOP were mostly conservative and not RINO and this political witch hunt never happened ?? RINOs are just as evil as the Marxist Dems for sure(e.g.John McCain)
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