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Old 05-11-2018, 10:05 PM  
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Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

Can We All Finally Admit Trump Is A Good President?

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

By MICHAEL J. KNOWLES

May 10, 2018
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The Iran Deal in tatters, three American hostages safely returned from North Korea, which now offers to denuclearize and end the Korean War after 68 years, five top ISIS leaders captured — and that’s just this week. On the domestic front, in just a year-and-a-half, landmark tax reform has made the U.S. more competitive, fewer illegal aliens are entering our country than at any time in the past 17 years, and dozens of federal judges have taken the bench to defend the rule of law and our constitutional system. According to a poll from CNN of all outlets, more Americans today think the country is headed in the right direction than at any time in over a decade.

The Left unsurprisingly remains steadfast in their opposition to President Trump. What’s disappointing is that a handful of “Never Trump” Republicans remain equally unwilling to admit the obvious: Donald Trump is a good president. Indeed, the remaining anti-Trump voices on the Right seem more desperate than ever to take down the president, if only to prove that, actually, they were right all along.

An oft-abused Ralph Waldo Emerson saying comes to mind. Clumsy pedants misquote the transcendental essayist absurdly insisting, “Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” In reality Emerson wrote, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” The distinction is crucial. Logic requires consistency, but logical premises can be proved wrong. The madman who is convinced he's a banana and therefore peels off his own skin follows a consistent logic; the trouble is that his premise isn’t true.

People are stubborn. More precisely, they easily fall prey to commitment bias, whereby individuals become more convinced of their position once they have declared it publicly. The more people defend their opinions, the more difficult those opinions are to dislodge even as evidence mounts to rebut them. Foolish ideologues, presented with evidence that reality contradicts their theories, reject reality for their theories.

Some conservatives and Republicans refused to vote for President Trump in 2016, and they did so for a variety of reasons. Some feared Trump would turn out to be a left-wing wolf in sheep’s clothing. Others insisted that Trump’s rough speech and boorish personal behavior would preclude his governing as a conservative and diminish the United States in the eyes of her citizens and the rest of the world. After 17 months, not only have none of those fears come to pass, but indeed all available evidence points in precisely the opposite direction: excellent governance at home, peace through strength abroad, and a long-absent hopefulness in the hearts of Americans.

Reality has refuted the “Never Trump” premises. That fact ought to be a cause for celebration among all but those who wish our country ill. Nevertheless, some still stubbornly hope President Trump will fail our country so they can avoid the indignity of having been wrong. But changing one’s mind in the light of new evidence is no vice; and consistency in the defense of fantasy is no virtue.

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Old 05-13-2018, 06:34 PM   #106
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Sure. Let's go with the corruption angle. Here's just the tip of the iceberg:

- Diplomats and ambassadors are staying and hosting events at Trump's own properties which he has yet to divest from.

- Issued a travel ban from a bunch of Muslim majority countries, with a few where he has business interests notably absent from the list.

- Reversed course on his "One China Policy", then 5 days later China granted him a long sought after trademark protection.

- Trump trademark has 157 applications pending in 36 countries

- Former Mexican ambassador says the State Department is urging foreign diplomats to use Trump's DC hotel for official visits

- Trump nominated somebody who speaks 'basic spanish' to be the ambassador to the Dominican Republic who was a long time Mar-A-Lago member and GOP operative.

- Trump frequently visits his own properties, directly spending tax payer money on his own businesses.

- Raised the membership fee at Mar-A-Lago from 100k to 200k after being elected, suggesting he is open to trading access for profits.

Much of this list comes from this article, which is a much more comprehensive list of the blatant corruption that we see on a daily basis. Of course, conservative media has ignored it entirely, and the Trump Russia story takes up most of the oxygen on the mainstream networks, but it's all there and pretty difficult to dispute.
If any of that had one shred of truth don’t you think he would have been impeached by now? I really feel bad for you.

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Old 05-13-2018, 06:36 PM   #107
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If any of that had one shred of truth don’t you think he would have been impeached by now? I really feel bad for you.


Trump could shoot a man on the House floor and this Congress wouldn’t impeach.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:37 PM   #108
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Sure. Let's go with the corruption angle. Here's just the tip of the iceberg:

- Diplomats and ambassadors are staying and hosting events at Trump's own properties which he has yet to divest from.

- Issued a travel ban from a bunch of Muslim majority countries, with a few where he has business interests notably absent from the list.

- Reversed course on his "One China Policy", then 5 days later China granted him a long sought after trademark protection.

- Trump trademark has 157 applications pending in 36 countries

- Former Mexican ambassador says the State Department is urging foreign diplomats to use Trump's DC hotel for official visits

- Trump nominated somebody who speaks 'basic spanish' to be the ambassador to the Dominican Republic who was a long time Mar-A-Lago member and GOP operative.

- Trump frequently visits his own properties, directly spending tax payer money on his own businesses.

- Raised the membership fee at Mar-A-Lago from 100k to 200k after being elected, suggesting he is open to trading access for profits.

Much of this list comes from this article, which is a much more comprehensive list of the blatant corruption that we see on a daily basis. Of course, conservative media has ignored it entirely, and the Trump Russia story takes up most of the oxygen on the mainstream networks, but it's all there and pretty difficult to dispute.
Copy pasta talking points, apropos of nothing.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:40 PM   #109
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:43 PM   #110
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Trump could shoot a man on the House floor and this Congress wouldn’t impeach.
I don't know. I'm thinking that the 67 votes in the senate needed to convict could be found at that point
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:47 PM   #111
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I don't know. I'm thinking that the 67 votes in the senate needed to convict could be found at that point
It might depend on who he shoots.
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It might depend on who he shoots.
That's a very valid point
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I don't know. I'm thinking that the 67 votes in the senate needed to convict could be found at that point
If it was McCain he would get off. Maybe go to prison but he would totally get off on your face.

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Trump could shoot a man on the House floor and this Congress wouldn’t impeach.
If it’s Schiff, Waters, etc. there may be a congressional medal in it.
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Most incompetent and corrupt administration in my lifetime and it's only been a year and a half. It's actually kind of impressive.
^ Just woke up from a coma. Cut him some slack.
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If any of that had one shred of truth don’t you think he would have been impeached by now? I really feel bad for you.
Republicans don’t care, why would they impeach him over it? And those things are pretty well sourced and haven’t been disputed, so dismissing them as fake is pretty laughable. Do you believe the story about Cohen recieving payments through a shell company to ‘advise’ AT&T and others is fake too? It’s the same idea. Trump was scamming people for millions in Trump University and now he is using the Presidency to line his own pockets. Nobody who actually understands what Trump is about would be shocked by any of this. He gets away with it like he gets away with everything else. His supporters don’t care and most of the American public is clueless.
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Republicans don’t care, why would they impeach him over it? And those things are pretty well sourced and haven’t been disputed, so dismissing them as fake is pretty laughable. Do you believe the story about Cohen recieving payments through a shell company to ‘advise’ AT&T and others is fake too? It’s the same idea. Trump was scamming people for millions in Trump University and now he is using the Presidency to line his own pockets. Nobody who actually understands what Trump is about would be shocked by any of this. He gets away with it like he gets away with everything else that. His supporters don’t care and most of the American public is clueless.
You should research what you just typed out as complete full proof evidence against President Trump. 2 minutes on google and you would realize how ignorant you are.
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You should research what you just typed out as complete full proof evidence against President Trump. 2 minutes on google and you would realize how ignorant you are.
If Republicans spent two minutes on Google they wouldn’t have voted for Trump.

What specifically do you take issue with?
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You should research what you just typed out as complete full proof evidence against President Trump. 2 minutes on google and you would realize how ignorant you are.


The word is “foolproof.”
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