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Old 05-16-2018, 04:29 PM  
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Giuliani: Mueller's team told Trump's lawyers they can't indict a president

Giuliani: Mueller's team told Trump's lawyers they can't indict a president


(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President's lawyer.

"All they get to do is write a report," Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told CNN. "They can't indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us."
That conclusion is likely based on longstanding Justice Department guidelines. It is not about any assessment of the evidence Mueller's team has compiled.
A lack of an indictment would not necessarily mean the President is in the clear. Mueller could issue a report making referrals or recommendations to the House of Representatives.
The inability to indict a sitting president has been the position of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department since the Nixon administration and reaffirmed in the Clinton administration, but it has never been tested in court.

It had been an open question whether, if investigators found potentially criminal evidence against Trump, Mueller's team would try to challenge those Justice Department guidelines.
CNN reached out to Mueller's team. They declined to comment.
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein publicly discussed the issue earlier this month at an event held by the Freedom Forum Institute. He was asked if a sitting president can be indicted.
"I'm not going to answer this in the context of any current matters, so you shouldn't draw any inference about it," Rosenstein said. "But the Department of Justice has in the past, when the issue arose, has opined that a sitting President cannot be indicted. There's been a lot of speculation in the media about this, I just don't have anything more to say about it." Rosenstein oversees the special counsel probe.
Giuliani tells CNN the special counsel's team has decided that "they have to follow the Justice Department rules."

"The Justice Department memos going back to before Nixon say that you cannot indict a sitting president, you have to impeach him. Now there was a little time in which there was some dispute about that, but they acknowledged to us orally that they understand that they can't violate the Justice Department rules," Giuliani said.
"We think it's bigger than that. We think it's a constitutional rule, but I don't think you're ever going to confront that because nobody's ever going to indict a sitting president. So, what does that leave them with? That leaves them with writing a report," said Giuliani.
It would then be up to the House of Representatives to decide what to do about with the special counsel's report -- and whether to pursue articles of impeachment.
Giuliani also said that he is using the one-year anniversary of the Mueller probe, which is Thursday, to push the special counsel to disclose how much money is being spent, and to actively begin negotiating with Trump's legal team over any Trump interview Mueller is seeking.
"Do you really need an interview?" Giuliani said he wants Mueller's team to answer.
"You've got all the facts. You've got all the documents. You've got all the explanations. We're happy to tell you they're not going to change."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/polit...ent/index.html
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:13 PM   #31
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All that proves is that a lot of people didn't understand how impeachment works in the first place.
No, it proves it's a story. You've become so deranged that even something that obvious is beyond you.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:20 PM   #32
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No, it proves it's a story. You've become so deranged that even something that obvious is beyond you.
There is a pretty good write up on it here.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...read-memo.html

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The special counsel apparently is relying on guidance from nearly two decades ago, when the Clinton administration reviewed 1973 guidance that “the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unduly interfere” with executive branch duties.

The House of Representatives, as it did during the Clinton administration, can bring misconduct charges against a president through the process of impeachment. That is not in question.

But then-Assistant Attorney General Randolph D. Moss, with the Office of Legal Counsel, determined in his October 2000 memo: “Our view remains that a sitting President is constitutionally immune from indictment and criminal prosecution.”

There are opposing points of view on this. The New York Times last summer unearthed a 1998 memo from Ken Starr’s independent counsel investigation that determined a sitting president could be indicted.

But the later 2000 memo, from the Justice Department itself, held firm that this is not the case.

Read the memo here:

The actual nmemo from 2000 is in the link and discusses why the POTUS cannot be indicted.


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Old 05-17-2018, 01:48 PM   #33
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There is a pretty good write up on it here...
Yeah, it's actually an unknown as to what would actually happen, since it hasn't been tested through the USSC. But Coshise has gone so far down the rabbit hole with his TDS that he can't just acknowledge that an obvious bit of news is an obvious bit of news, because the news would seem to be in Trump's favor.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:49 PM   #34
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Yeah, it's actually an unknown as to what would actually happen, since it hasn't been tested through the USSC. But Coshise has gone so far down the rabbit hole with his TDS that he can't just acknowledge that an obvious bit of news is an obvious bit of news, because the news would seem to be in Trump's favor.
Yea its not cut and dry but realistically its leaning in Trump's favor pretty heavily IMO. Especially given the current state of the SCOTUS.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:54 PM   #35
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Yeah, it's actually an unknown as to what would actually happen, since it hasn't been tested through the USSC. But Coshise has gone so far down the rabbit hole with his TDS that he can't just acknowledge that an obvious bit of news is an obvious bit of news, because the news would seem to be in Trump's favor.
Itís not news to people who already understood this. Itís certainly not news that means Trump faces no more danger from the special counsel.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:57 PM   #36
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Also it should be stated that there is NO REASON to indict the President.

You know this based on your extensive analysis of the evidence Mueller has gathered?

Or, you know, is it just your bullshit partisan opinion?

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Someone correct the thread title and make it "mueller admits hey could NEVER indict the president"
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You know this based on your extensive analysis of the evidence Mueller has gathered?

Or, you know, is it just your bullshit partisan opinion?

Asking for a friend.
Collusion's not a criminal offense, "Fruit of the poisoned tree", FBI violated laws during the 2016 camp...

Want me to go on?
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Itís not news to people who already understood this. Itís certainly not news that means Trump faces no more danger from the special counsel.
What the **** is wrong with you people? Mueller agreeing with the prior notion of presidential immunity, rather than claiming otherwise, in an untested area, is a valid story. If you can't figure out why, you've no business commenting on anything, ever.
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Collusion's not a criminal offense, "Fruit of the poisoned tree", FBI violated laws during the 2016 camp...

Want me to go on?

Bottom line -- you have absolutely no idea what evidence Mueller has gathered. Neither you nor I have any clue whether there is "NO REASON" to indict the President.
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What the **** is wrong with you people? Mueller agreeing with the prior notion of presidential immunity, rather than claiming otherwise, in an untested area, is a valid story. If you can't figure out why, you've no business commenting on anything, ever.
Itís a story of almost no significance. Itís a story that tells us we wonít face this particular constitutional crisis, I guess. Itís not a story about reduced Trump exposure.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:11 AM   #42
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