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Old 05-16-2018, 10:08 PM  
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Trump is a racist scumbag: exhibit 932

Before you can convince people to commit atrocities against a group of people you:

- blame them for all the ills of society
- dehumanize them

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...s-animals.html

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Trump lashed out at undocumented immigrants during a White House meeting on Wednesday, warning in front of news cameras that dangerous people were clamoring to breach the country’s borders and branding such people “animals.”
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:27 PM   #136
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I am happy to help you - here is some help:

I already posted the full transcript, I have no need of yours where you have removed some of what Trump said.

But extra points for posting dishonesty.

Also, you can't say Trump "responded" to her comment when nothing in his comment indicates he was "responding to it". Nothing at all.

/its cute you paste a article complaining about dishonest when the article itself doesn't include the full quote.
//but that is what I expect from conservatives.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:29 PM   #137
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Do you even understand what "legally" means in context to the past? And you are shitting yourself if you think 'all' went through a clearing post.

Anyway, we intentionally messed up immigration laws in the country for the purpose of creating a second class exploitable citizen.

And, no, there was no expectation of assimilate. Your immigrant ancestor spoke whatever native laugnage they had for decades after being here.

For example, in the Civil War, Missouri had to find German speaking officers to command their all German speaking Missouri units.

Also, undocumented immigrants don't get social safety help either.

Excellent job talking out of your ass again though. Bravo.

Just to have you on record. You are seriously saying assimilation is the same today as it was a hundred years ago. Oh wait, I remember all of the government paperwork being in multiple languages in the early 1900's.

Do you also realize an illegal immigrant who has a child is getting benefits of food and housing if they don't have a job or one that pays under the table.

Don't be Naïve.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:29 PM   #138
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Like I said before, the idiots in this thread claiming Trump was talking about all immigrants are the exact same dipshits that are crying and claiming Trump is so dishonest.
Still too cowardly to actually respond to post #46, eh?

That's okay. That's expected of you.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:30 PM   #139
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Thread AIDS type 1= Loneignoramus

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IMHO types 2 and 3 are more in the gonorrhea or genital warts categories. That first clown is the definition of thread AIDS though.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:34 PM   #140
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Just to have you on record. You are seriously saying assimilation is the same today as it was a hundred years ago. Oh wait, I remember all of the government paperwork being in multiple languages in the early 1900's.

Do you also realize and illegal immigrant who has a child is getting benefits of food and housing if they don't have a job or one that pays under the table.

Don't be Naïve.
Yes. Immigrants of yesteryear mainly spoke their native language for decades in this country. Do a google search for the popularity and number of Non English Newspapers in this country in the 1800s. They are not any different than current immigrants.

Only the laws changed. Before the civil war, we had a very free and open immigration system. It wasn't until 1870s that the federal government even really got involved.

Are you complaining about a child, who is an American Citizen, not starving? That's a good look.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:34 PM   #141
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Still too cowardly to actually respond to post #46, eh?

That's okay. That's expect of you.
There is nothing in post 46 that does anything except cement how ****ing dumb you are.

Is that rebuttal enough for you stupid ass?
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:35 PM   #142
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I already posted the full transcript, I have no need of yours where you have removed some of what Trump said.

But extra points for posting dishonesty.

Also, you can't say Trump "responded" to her comment when nothing in his comment indicates he was "responding to it". Nothing at all.

/its cute you paste a article complaining about dishonest when the article itself doesn't include the full quote.
//but that is what I expect from conservatives.

You are just trying to be clever -

- and not doing very well at it
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:36 PM   #143
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Still too cowardly to actually respond to post #46, eh?

That's okay. That's expect of you.
Respond? You're truly a dolt if you don't see the dishonesty in this simple example of parsing Trump's word to make you feel better. We are obviously deporting a high percentage of law breakers and gang members right now. They are very bad "hombres" so to speak. Comprende?
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:39 PM   #144
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There is nothing in post 46 that does anything except cement how ****ing dumb you are.

Is that rebuttal enough for you stupid ass?
Its a cowardly rebuttal from a insecure man who can't articulate what about the post you take issue with.

"Its stupid"

"Why"

"I can't articulate why"

:: pats head:: "That's okay. I know when you say stupid, you just mean 'I don't want that to be true, so I'll throw a temper tantrum'"
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Yes. Immigrants of yesteryear mainly spoke their native language for decades in this country. Do a google search for the popularity and number of Non English Newspapers in this country in the 1800s. They are not any different than current immigrants.

Only the laws changed. Before the civil war, we had a very free and open immigration system. It wasn't until 1870s that the federal government even really got involved.

Are you complaining about a child, who is an American Citizen, not starving? That's a good look.
I repeat...you were personally responsible for yourself when immigrating to American, sink or swim. You didn't have a choice to mooch... Most assimilated and learned English. I'm all for legal immigration for those with skills that will allow them to be self sufficient. You choose to hate the poorest Americans by allowing cheap unskilled labor to flood unabated into this country, suppressing wages for the white, black and brown here legally...
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You are just trying to be clever -

- and not doing very well at it
Posting the full transcript rather than one that was chopped up, like you, is clever? Okay...

Correctly pointing out that nothing in Trump's comment links to anything in the conversation, he didn't use any common conversational 'tells' to let people listening know if he was responding or just making a statement. General 'people' used rather the same terminology as his conservation partner. That's not clever, that's looking at the actual transcript.

He could have been responding. It could have been a stand alone comment. Only Trump knows. And he refuses to specify.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:47 PM   #147
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I repeat...you were personally responsible for yourself when immigrating to American, sink or swim.
You didn't have a choice to mooch... Most assimilated and learned English.
No, most did not learn English. But like immigrants of today, immigrants of yesterday did work hard.

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I'm all for legal immigration for those with skills that will allow them to be self sufficient. You choose to hate the poorest Americans by allowing cheap unskilled labor to flood unabated into this country, suppressing wages for the white, black and brown here legally...
You guys really have zero idea how bad it makes you look to complain that some "unskilled immigrant who can't speak English" is the reason you can't get a job.

Or how stupid you sound for complaining about the guy working, whether immigrant or not, rather that the guy who ignored immigrantion laws to underpay and exploit someone for personal profit.

Of course, that is by design. Mess up immigration laws. Create exploitable second class citizen. Convince people to hate and complain about the immigrant rather than the person hiring and exploiting the immigrant.
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This is great.......... I mean really the left really does HATE AMERICA I mean look at the last year and a half and laugh with me!

Liberals - "He's a NAZI!!! wait....... Damn't!"

Liberals - "Trump is a sexist..... ****!"


Liberals - "Trump is a LIAR!!! ............. ****!!!!!!!!!"

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Liberals - "Trump is a racist Piece of shiiiiiiii...... OH COMMON!"


Liberals - "This is nothing but a tax cut for the rich and corporations!!!! OH FOR **** SAKES!"

Liberals - "Trump is Homophobic piece of shii.......... WHAT! Only president to run pro-gay marriage before he was elected, GOD DAMN'T!"



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No, most did not learn English. But like immigrants of today, immigrants of yesterday did work hard.



You guys really have zero idea how bad it makes you look to complain that some "unskilled immigrant who can't speak English" is the reason you can't get a job.

Or how stupid you sound for complaining about the guy working, whether immigrant or not, rather that the guy who ignored immigrantion laws to underpay and exploit someone for personal profit.

Of course, that is by design. Mess up immigration laws. Create exploitable second class citizen. Convince people to hate and complain about the immigrant rather than the person hiring and exploiting the immigrant.
Dude, I'm all for E-Verify and stronger borders. I'm also for huge penalties for those that hire illegal workers. If you don't think sanctuary cities and turning you head to illegal immigration isn't sucking resources out of Social Security, Medicare and other payroll tax programs and that it doesn't suppress wages, you are crazy. We could be on the same page, have quicker Legal immigration for those with skills that are needed, secure the border and come down hard on employers who are circumventing the system. Importing unskilled labor hurts black, brown and rural white communities the most. If we become more automated, this becomes an even bigger issue.
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Dude, I'm all for E-Verify and stronger borders. I'm also for huge penalties for those that hire illegal workers.
Sure. That's why you spend your time complaining about undocumented immigrants who are working rather than those who hire them.



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If you don't think sanctuary cities and turning you head to illegal immigration isn't sucking resources out of Social Security, Medicare and other payroll tax programs and that it doesn't suppress wages, you are crazy.
Sanctuary cities only require the federal government to obtain a warrant. If the federal government cannot obtain a warrant, that isn't the cities fault.

Also, undocumented immigrants help support SS and Medicare by contributing tax dollars to those programs without ever seeing the benefits. The number is actually in the billions.
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