I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Direckshun]

From the free agency megathread:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 28s

The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others

The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.

[ChiefAshhole20]

What is Geno not as good in compared to Garcia or Kolb? I never mentioned Mcnabb.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

What is Geno not as good in compared to Garcia or Kolb? I never mentioned Mcnabb.

Why are there copies of the Style section all over the place, d-do you have a dog? A little chow or something?

[ChiefAshhole20]

I don't get it..

[Gravedigger]

Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

[O.city]

If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Really? Isn't there a post here on the first page with him mocked out of the 1st round.


Yes, 5 guys, updated after the presser.

Read again.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

How can you say that drafting Geno is the end of our QB troubles for years?

Not a single talking head in the NFL right now thinks he could start right away, and most are calling him a project, some are even mocking him out of the 2nd round.

How would drafting a career backup, end our QB troubles?

Reread your own ****ing post dickbag.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

More importantly, look at the disparity of the non first round QBs.

Tom Brady- 6th round
Jake Delhomme- undrafted
Matt Hasselbeck- 6th round
Kurt Warner- undrafted
Colin Kaepernick- 2nd round

That shit's all over the place. Yes, you CAN find late round gems, but that doesn't mean you should bank on it as a legitimate strategy for finding the right QB.

The error (that JustPassinBy and Excretor keep missing) is you can't just say, "Look at all these QBs who didn't get drafted in the first round who went to the Super Bowl! That's almost as many as the first round QBs!" They don't look at the percentages or take into account that SIX rounds (seven if you count undrafted guys) of QBs were combined to get a number that is fewer than just the one round.

Just because Brady and Warner happened doesn't mean the Chiefs can do it. If they do, then great. In the meantime, they should start looking for QBs in the first round, which is OVERWHELMINGLY the round to find your starter and franchise guy.

[Tombstone RJ]

I'd be if kc took geno #1.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by SNR

More importantly, look at the disparity of the non first round QBs.

Tom Brady- 6th round
Jake Delhomme- undrafted
Matt Hasselbeck- 6th round
Kurt Warner- undrafted
Colin Kaepernick- 2nd round

That shit's all over the place. Yes, you CAN find late round gems, but that doesn't mean you should bank on it as a legitimate strategy for finding the right QB.

The error (that JustPassinBy and Excretor keep missing) is you can't just say, "Look at all these QBs who didn't get drafted in the first round who went to the Super Bowl! That's almost as many as the first round QBs!" They don't look at the percentages or take into account that SIX rounds (seven if you count undrafted guys) of QBs were combined to get a number that is fewer than just the one round.

Just because Brady and Warner happened doesn't mean the Chiefs can do it. If they do, then great. In the meantime, they should start looking for QBs in the first round, which is OVERWHELMINGLY the round to find your starter and franchise guy.

And when you hit it, you hit it BIG. Roethlisberger was in multiple Superbowls, so were both Mannings, Aaron Rodgers will get to another one or two before that is all said and done, every draft pick is a risk but the risk at Quarterback will ALWAYS yield the sweeter reward.

[Nightfyre]

Good Lord. Who crushed Exoter with the three pound stupid bat?

[B14ckmon]

Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

That's it in a nutshell.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

they're selecting LJ unfortunately.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

they're selecting LJ unfortunately.

I've never bought this, even when his name was all the hot shit. Maybe I'm just in denial.