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Old 12-16-2013, 08:48 PM   #10531
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Is throwing an INT really any worse than skipping a WR screen off Jenkins' shoetops on 3rd down, or being late to decide to throw on 4th down at the end Denver game?

The result is the same.
And yet you make excuses for Romo.

Double standard.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:50 PM   #10532
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Where is this happening?
It's like DJ said.

A boogeyman based on a false narrative.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:52 PM   #10533
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Where is this happening?
It's happened in the last 50 posts of this thread.

DJ said something along the lines of it being a "random ass game", IIRC.

Others have said, "well, what if THIS happens?" (meaning Alex "played well" and another part of the team is supposed to take the blame)

Just a few examples.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:55 PM   #10534
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It's happened in the last 50 posts of this thread.

DJ said something along the lines of it being a "random ass game", IIRC.

Others have said, "well, what if THIS happens?" (meaning Alex "played well" and another part of the team is supposed to take the blame)

Just a few examples.
Thats just people asking you, if basically the same situation you are defending Romo for happened to Smith in the POs, would you call him a failure?
Doesn't seem like you would if it happened to Romo.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:56 PM   #10535
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And yet you make excuses for Romo.

Double standard.
It's only a double standard if I blame Alex for a loss that he didn't really play a part in.

Which I haven't done, nor have I for any other QB. I'm usually the guy standing up for the Romos and Ryans while the rest of the board blames them.

But again, it depends on your interpretation of "good enough".

IMO, Alex was good enough in the SD game. He wasn't in the Denver games.

Lets see how he plays and then debate it, instead of coming up with these hypothetical conditions.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:56 PM   #10536
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It's happened in the last 50 posts of this thread.

DJ said something along the lines of it being a "random ass game", IIRC.

Others have said, "well, what if THIS happens?" (meaning Alex "played well" and another part of the team is supposed to take the blame)

Just a few examples.
And what's wrong with that? If Alex plays well and we lose it's Alex's fault? IT MAKES NO SENSE. NONE.

2003 loss was on Trent Green?

The requirement is there. Alex has to play well. If not he is at fault. But if he throws 4td passes and the defense gives it up like they did against the Chargers then that's on Alex. REALLY?
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #10537
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It's happened in the last 50 posts of this thread.

DJ said something along the lines of it being a "random ass game", IIRC.

Others have said, "well, what if THIS happens?" (meaning Alex "played well" and another part of the team is supposed to take the blame)

Just a few examples.
I guess I'm just not reading it that way. I mean the discussion was about winning a playoff game and it is possible Alex could play well and we lose.

He could play poor and we could win though not likely.

It's not as simple as everyone always wants to make things but in the end the QB usually gets the glory or the blame.

I think the price we paid in the trade makes a playoff win critical to it being a success. Not necessarily this year but why not expect it this year, we have already won 11 games and will likely draw a beatable opponent.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:58 PM   #10538
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And what's wrong with that? If Alex plays well and we lose it's Alex's fault? IT MAKES NO SENSE. NONE.

2003 loss was on Trent Green?

The requirement is there. Alex has to play well. If not he is at fault. But if he throws 4td passes and the defense gives it up like they did against the Chargers then that's on Alex. REALLY?
It was Trents fault that Priest fumbled! **** TriNT lol

Alex didnt get them in FG range with 20 seconds left in the game! He lost the game for them /cp
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #10539
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Exactly. But instead, people are already setting conditions on how we might lose.

Meanwhile, in another thread, Tony Romo is getting crucified for his defense giving up 37 points - 34 in the 2nd half alone - on 5 drives, 3 of which were 80 yards, one set up by a punt return.

The Dallas defense gave up 28 points on 3 80-yard drives before Romo threw the "difference making" INT.

Yet Romo is taking all the blame.
I am one of them that is crucifying him. And I imagine that you along with the rest of us will be bitching about AS if he threw 2 INT's in the last 3 minutes while we were winning to end up losing the playoff game.

Otherwise we are in agreement in this thread. I expect AS to play well and win a playoff game. That is not expecting too much.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #10540
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Best part of Alex Smith's game - He is at his best when it matters most. It's almost easy to forget that the Raiders turned yesterday's Jamaalihilation into an actual, real life football game at one point. 35-31 with the Chiefs facing 3rd and 1. Boom! Playaction, wheel route, perfect throw, 42-31, goodnight sweetheart. But Alex has been doing this all season. He came up with a big drive to seal the win in both Philly and Tennessee. He led multiple lead changing drives against San Diego in the fourth quarter. He fought back from two scores down against Denver. I'm at a point now where I trust Alex with the game on the line. And in the NFL, if you don't have an elite QB, you best damn have a clutch one. And I say Alex is clutch.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:02 PM   #10541
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And what's wrong with that? If Alex plays well and we lose it's Alex's fault? IT MAKES NO SENSE. NONE.

2003 loss was on Trent Green?

The requirement is there. Alex has to play well. If not he is at fault. But if he throws 4td passes and the defense gives it up like they did against the Chargers then that's on Alex. REALLY?
Who is saying any of this? Not me.

I'm the guy actually steering clear of the what ifs, and waiting to see what actually happens before judging him - because "he played well" means different things to different people.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:05 PM   #10542
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I guess I'm just not reading it that way. I mean the discussion was about winning a playoff game and it is possible Alex could play well and we lose.

He could play poor and we could win though not likely.

It's not as simple as everyone always wants to make things but in the end the QB usually gets the glory or the blame.

I think the price we paid in the trade makes a playoff win critical to it being a success. Not necessarily this year but why not expect it this year, we have already won 11 games and will likely draw a beatable opponent.
Again, people have different interpretations of "played well".

IMO, he didn't exactly play well for most of the first 8-9 games, yet we won them all - so I'm not sure why you find it unlikely to happen.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:05 PM   #10543
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Lets see how he plays and then debate it, instead of coming up with these hypothetical conditions.
This makes worlds of sense.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:07 PM   #10544
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Who is saying any of this? Not me.

I'm the guy actually steering clear of the what ifs, and waiting to see what actually happens before judging him - because "he played well" means different things to different people.
You may not have been saying that but there are a number who were.

Just look at the Charger game. People were like

"Alex just couldn't keep up"

"Rivers had a perfect game Alex didn't"

That's why you get people saying if Alex plays well they won't put a playoff loss on Alex. Alex has played well in a game the Chiefs lost and it was put on him by some
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:08 PM   #10545
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It's only a double standard if I blame Alex for a loss that he didn't really play a part in.

Which I haven't done, nor have I for any other QB. I'm usually the guy standing up for the Romos and Ryans while the rest of the board blames them.

But again, it depends on your interpretation of "good enough".

IMO, Alex was good enough in the SD game. He wasn't in the Denver games.

Lets see how he plays and then debate it, instead of coming up with these hypothetical conditions.
I disagree on the Denver at KC game.
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