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Old 01-12-2018, 01:28 AM  
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LNBS: The case for Bob Sutton

2017: 15th ppg
2016: 7th ppg.
2015: 3ppg
2014: 2nd pg
2013: 5th ppg

I know we all have our pitch forks out. The Titans did not punt the 2nd half of the game. The first half we kicked ass until..... Chris Jones went out.

The defense sucked ass most of the year until December when Jones finally put it together. We missed Berry immensely. I get it coaches are paid to coach the guys they have. Without Jones and Nunes-Roaches in the playoffs we suffered immensely.

I still think Bob can get the job done. We need 1 more CB and a denfensive lineman.

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Old 01-12-2018, 09:10 AM   #31
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It is pathetic watching elements of the fanbase try to defend and justify continued mediocrity.

Bob Sutton should be fired... case closed.


Well they did support Herm cause they knew he would fix the defense.

So why does this surprise you?
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:11 AM   #32
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You can't deny he had a lot to do with getting us into the playoffs.

Not too long ago this fan base would have killed for a DC that could hold teams to 22 points in the postseason.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:12 AM   #33
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I'm not willing to even look at that case, let alone open it and look inside. Sutton's tenure with the Chiefs be what it may, he's done here for me.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:15 AM   #34
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I had been an ardent Sutton supporter until the end of this year.

Maybe someone like Sorter who knows the x's and o's 99% better than the rest of the board can give some insight, but it seemed to me like he stayed in nickle and dime packages even when we were getting absolutely gashed by the run. I have no clue why he didn't change it up.

I'm not sure what to think. The D seemed to get better with the addition of Revis the last quarter of the season. Does he really just need a player or two, or is he stubborn to a fault on scheme. I don't know.

I wish more announcers were like Romo and could explain what is going on and why things are working or not working.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:18 AM   #35
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I fear since Sutton still has his job at this point he's staying.

And one of my biggest frustrations with this organization is realized once again, they stick with something that's broke way too long.
Still holding out hope that the two guys who probably make sense for the Chiefs, spags and Adam Zimmer, technically aren't on the market. If Minnesota loses and spags misses the Giants HC opportunity, maybe we'll see some momentum.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:18 AM   #36
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You can't deny he had a lot to do with getting us into the playoffs.

Not too long ago this fan base would have killed for a DC that could hold teams to 22 points in the postseason.
Times are different now. We've had a taste of some minor success, and this is no longer acceptable.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:46 AM   #37
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Forget the stats, Sutton just misuses his players far too often. That is the ultimate red flag.

He needs to go.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:54 AM   #38
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Man..forget Sutton for a second. This defense needs a lot of work in personnel. Dorsey really ****ed up this defense.

2 DL, ILB, maybe OLB, #2 CB and S. Big questions there.

Now we see why Dorsey was shown the door.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:11 AM   #39
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Three man fronts against 3rd an short...
Not moving our best coverage back (Peters) to match up against the oppositions best receiver...
Thinking that Hali has anything left in the tank and relying on him too much...
Not being able to scheme around critical injuries to key players, i.e. Berry...
Bend, and bend, and bend, and bend and hope you don't break before creating a turnover...
You have some valid points, however relying on Hali might be overstating since he played in only 5 games.
My biggest concern is his seeming inability to adjust to the opposing offense, particularly in the 2nd half. With a 21-3 lead at halftime, you know the opposing OC had to make a change and Sutton didn't. When you allow TD drives of 91, 62, and 80 yards in the 2nd half, you've gone to sleep.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:16 AM   #40
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Here are the other relevant rankings:

2017:
- Passing yds: 29th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2016:
- Passing yds: 18th
- Rushing yds: 26th

2015:
- Passing yds: 9th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2014:
- Passing yds: 31st
- Rushing yds: 5th

2013:
- Passing yds: 7th
- Rushing yds: 11th


The "bend but don't break" approach isn't sustainable, and things are trending the wrong way since 2015. It's time for a change, and a move away from the Ryan system.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:28 AM   #41
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Here are the other relevant rankings:

2017:
- Passing yds: 29th
- Rushing yds: 25th


2016:
- Passing yds: 18th
- Rushing yds: 26th

2015:
- Passing yds: 9th
- Rushing yds: 25th

2014:
- Passing yds: 31st
- Rushing yds: 5th

2013:
- Passing yds: 7th
- Rushing yds: 11th


The "bend but don't break" approach isn't sustainable, and things are trending the wrong way since 2015. It's time for a change, and a move away from the Ryan system.
Horrible. As I posted in another thread very rarely do SB winning teams have rankings as low as the bolded parts whether that be the offense or defense. Our defense has got to better...
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What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:34 AM   #43
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What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.
Off the top of my head, Houston and Poe were hurt
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:34 AM   #44
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What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.
Poe hurt his back.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:36 AM   #45
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Off the top of my head, Houston and Poe were hurt
Makes sense. Looks like we need a dominant NT in the trenches to have any shot with this D. Logan just won't cut it. Hopefully we can swing for Pennel.
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