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Old 03-17-2017, 07:55 PM  
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How has God wired you spiritually? What is your spiritual gift/gifts?

When a person comes to Christ, that person receives a spiritual gift and most receive several spiritual gifts through the Power of the Holy Spirit that now inhabits their soul. For a list of those spiritual gifts you can read I Cor. 12 and Romans 12. However, using your spiritual gifts is very much like physical exercise. You need to practice and serve at all times in your gifts so that the Holy Spirit can build up your soul spiritually so that you may be bold in living and serving in your faith. But if you avoid serving with the spiritual gifts Jesus gave you then you will spiritually atrophy. You won't lose your gifts but you will be ineffective in your faith. Paul encourages Timothy to fan into flame the power of the Holy Spirit to use his spiritual gifts and not to be timid. Because the more you use your gifts the more the Power of God is revealed through YOU !!!

Here is the 5th talk by Pastor Jeff in the series called "The Power of the Gospel" and this talk is labeled "Powering Forward"!! Pastor Jeff a talented speaker and teacher of the Bible in this video sermon/audio only if you choose gives much encouragement, joy and hope to both Christians and unbelievers. To discover and develop their spiritual gifts through the person of Jesus Christ. For those of you who have not heard him speak he is truly one of the most authentic, genuine, straight from the heart, pull no punches, tells it like it is, gifted speaker of the Gospel that I have heard in a long time and have met. He is the 'real deal' and your time will not be wasted listening to him.

Blessings to all !!!

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Old 03-25-2017, 06:44 PM   #391
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NIV? well, that explains a lot. Publisher also prints the Satanic Bible. Why don't you quote the verses I gave you and debunk those, instead of repeating yourself.

Bondservant isn't a slave. They were taken care of., allowed their freedom upon mistreatment and usually redeemed at Jubilee.
Which publisher of the NIV are you talking about?

Biblica?
Zondervan?
Concordia?
Thomas Nelson Bibles?
Hodder and Stoughton?

Do some research on the crazy tripe you are being fed. And question their motives.
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:51 PM   #392
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Which publisher of the NIV are you talking about?

Biblica?
Zondervan?
Concordia?
Thomas Nelson Bibles?
Hodder and Stoughton?

Do some research on the crazy tripe you are being fed. And question their motives.
Take your own advice, if you had, you would know.

Not interested in you butting in on a comment so you puff your chest out.

No profit...
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:04 PM   #393
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Take your own advice, if you had, you would know.

Not interested in you butting in on a comment so you puff your chest out.

No profit...
Uh oh. Hapercollins publishes a KJV Bible.


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Old 03-25-2017, 08:51 PM   #394
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Thank you for being honest and genuine in this post. Trust me it will be very difficult to put the book down because he writes from a point of view from being a crime beat journalist/reporter of which he was is in Chicago in the late 60's,70's and 80's. And he has far more intellect than both of us put together and was a die hard Atheist and was originally out to write this book to disprove God. Fascinating !!!

Sir, I assure you I am an Atheist I don't believe the Burden of proof has been met to support a position of theism. You are all in for your religion to the point of being a young earth creationist, the chasm is enormous.

If science discovers evidence of the supernatural or a metric by which to test it, I will reexamine my position. The starting point of a reassessment of my theological position would be the extraordinary evidence to match the claims of religion.

No hard feelings.


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Old 03-25-2017, 10:23 PM   #395
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I'm surprised you guys aren't as tired of this atheism 1.0 shit as I am.

Frankly at this point it's hard for me to get riled up beyond 'you believe in magic, lol'.

I enjoy conversations with religious people. I have them all the time, but you're talking to literalists. Presuppositionalists. People who think the bible is LITERAL history and not allegory and parable. You can't even have a real discussion with them. They're in denial of reality. The only arguable value in the bible would be as a meta-guide to life and behavior to increase happiness and limit misery, but even in that capacity it's simply out-dated. Because it was written thousands of years ago and canonized 1000 years ago, and then reformed 400 years ago. By men. Every time. The religion has changed with the times, but aren't we at a point we can do this without belief in magic?
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:17 AM   #396
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I'm surprised you guys aren't as tired of this atheism 1.0 shit as I am.

They're in denial of reality. The only arguable value in the bible would be as a meta-guide to life and behavior to increase happiness and limit misery, but even in that capacity it's simply out-dated. Because it was written thousands of years ago and canonized 1000 years ago, and then reformed 400 years ago. By men. Every time. The religion has changed with the times
Tired? No, but expected. Even though you are tired of it, you still made your case..

This was a decent post, these points you bring up happen most frequently. You are a smart guy, and I respect your candidness.

It isn't about increasing in happiness and limiting misery...that is man's way. It's about happiness despite the misery. You see this in people with horrible debilitating afflictions, as an extreme example, or people finding God at the end of their life, rather it be medical or death row. You see it when victims forgive attackers. It boils down to forgiveness and redemption... Both heal and sustain while things steal and are stolen. It' s a rejoicing that doesn't come easily or is easily obtained. We are bombarded with self medicating distractions that kept us in that cycle of happiness/misery that is spoon fedi and self propelling. You are what you drive, etc. ad nauseum.

Yes it was written by man, but inspirited by God. Saying man would be fallible in the writing of the Bible endorses what the Word says and doesn't disprove it. No way that those forty authors from tens of decades could have colluded such a tightly woven tapestry. There are facts parables and allegories..the latter items don't make the meaning any less true.

Mans way is to give you a hundred different variations, while the reality is the truth is revealed to you..one gives credit/blame to man, the other to God.


Yes the religion has changed with the times, but God isn't religion. That is the correlation that has to be made, that is the presupposition. Keep putting man in the throne over God, because
if man is fallible, then so is God. The magical label truly applies to that same lie that has been played over and over since the Garden of Eden. Same line over and over again, delivered in positive way..."Yea, hath God said?"

Thanks for your time.

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Old 03-26-2017, 03:08 AM   #397
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Two things keep me tethered to a spirituality flow...#1. Humans universally cry..water actually drips from their eyes when their sprint is either tested, broken or breached.

#2. Heartbreak..I dont care how tough you are..biker, punk, terrorist, mass-murderer...every one of those stereotypes knows heartbreak. It is a universal treatment.

That energy..that is undeterred in it's consistency...leads me to think there is definitively something happening here...what it actually is..I have no idea. In a chaotic universe...there shouldn't be evidence of a universal moral code, we should feel nothing...yet there is something that presents itself, involuntarily,..and universally.

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