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O.city · 01-23-2013, 06:49 PM

Jets owner Woody Johnson to explore trading Darrelle Revis
By Jason La Canfora | CBS Sports NFL Insider
January 23, 2013 7:28 pm ET

The New York Jets, fresh off an exhaustive hunt for new general manager John Idzik, will explore options to deal star corner Darrelle Revis this offseason, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Revis, whose contract voids after the 2014 season, is set to earn $6 million in 2013 (between salary and bonuses), and owner Woody Johnson has strong reservations about the ability to extend Revis's deal, the sources said. Johnson has expressed his desire to attempt to land value for Revis now, rather than risk losing him as an unrestricted free agent a year from now, most likely seeking as much draft-pick compensation for him as possible.

The Jets are very much in transition mode, they have cap issues moving forward and are trying to embark on a rebuilding processafter firing former long-time general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Revis, who missed almost all of last season after suffering a torn ACL, engaged in a long holdout in 2010 that resulted in a contract extension that was more of a Band-Aid than anything else.

Revis signed a seven-year deal then that voids to a four-year pact, thus making him an unrestricted free agent after the 2013 season. The deal also precludes him being hit with the franchise tag or any other such mechanism. Johnson has made it very clear he would like to pursue a means to reap rewards for Revis now, sources said, and it is likely to be an immediate part of Idzik's initial job duties.

Revis is considered by many to be the best defensive player in the game. And with pass rusher Mario Williams earning$60 million guaranteedfrom Buffalo a year ago, Johnson understands how financially restrictive it would be to retain him. His team desperately needs young, cheap, impact players to help reposition the team for the future, with 2013 a year of transition.

Revis is the only real trading chip that he has. Knee injury or not, there would be no shortage of teams interested in securing his services and no shortage of rebuilding teams sitting on massive cap space in 2013. The Jets are also likely to be hard-pressed to retain free agents like tight end Dustin Keller, running back Shonn Greene and defensive tackle Mike DeVito, though they will make a push to retain DeVito, the sources said.

Getting Revis signed to an extension would be a possibility to trying to remedy this situation, but the sources said Johnson has established his desire to move him if he can secure fair value in exchange.

Dealing Revis would incur a $9 million cap hit due to some option-bonus prorations involved in the contract -- thus Revis would count an additional $3 million against the cap than he is currently scheduled to -- but the Jets could navigate that relatively easily according to sources familiar with their cap situation, via a restructuring or by releasing a veteran. The team is using 2013 as a year for cap and budgetary housecleaning, to get situated for the future. It stands to reason that come 2014, both Revis and head coach Rex Ryan, are gone.

Any interest?

O.city · 01-23-2013, 07:11 PM

I just don't view ACL's the same. I think he'll be fine, injury wise.

And he probably deserves the contract he is gonna get, dudes a great cover CB.

You would have the best CB tandem in the league, IMO. Flowers and Revis? Sure. If he's not worth it, who is?

Let me ask this, would you be getting an equal talent if you draft a CB in the second round?

Hammock Parties · 01-23-2013, 07:12 PM

The Broncos will make a run at him after Chump Bailey got smoked.

**hometeam** · 01-23-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

Branden Albert?

YES. LET US TRADE A PLAYER THAT WE DO NOT HAVE UNDER CONTRACT LOL

-King- · 01-23-2013, 07:14 PM

I'd trade our 2nd + some later picks or some other player for him.

-King- · 01-23-2013, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

28yrs old (in football terms)
Coming off acl repair
Would be on a 1 year deal and will be looking for the largest contract ever for a cb.
Would require premium compensation in a trade.

I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure about all the costs involved being worth it.

It just sucks that ***** let Carr walk because he didn't want to hurt Flowers feelings...these conversations shouldn't even be taking place.

What?

And wtf is football terms?

MeatRock · 01-23-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

The Broncos will make a run at him after Chump Bailey got smoked.

^ This

O.city · 01-23-2013, 07:18 PM

Hell, he tore up his knee in October. He'll be fine by the time the opener rolls around.

**Bwana** · 01-23-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Paging Daniel Snyder....

That was my first thought as well.

**Easy 6** · 01-23-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'd love to have him, but I'm not sure about all the costs involved being worth it.

Exactly, who wouldnt want a player like him... but it will be a "the moon & stars" situation.

O.city · 01-23-2013, 07:19 PM

I'd give up our 2 rounder this year, maybe a 2 or 3 next year.

**BossChief** · 01-23-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I just don't view ACL's the same. I think he'll be fine, injury wise.

And he probably deserves the contract he is gonna get, dudes a great cover CB.

You would have the best CB tandem in the league, IMO. Flowers and Revis? Sure. If he's not worth it, who is?

Let me ask this, would you be getting an equal talent if you draft a CB in the second round?

I have no doubts that he will return to be a good player, but the question is how good?...he will want ELITE money, not "really good".

John Dorsey has been able to identify top notch corners in GB in the mid rounds.

I'd rather have a "Tramon Williams" for 10 years at a lower cap rate than a lesser version of Revis for 4, at the largest contract for a corner...especially when you factor in Emmitt Thomas.

**TribalElder** · 01-23-2013, 07:20 PM

He is a diva. Every year he wants to renegotiate his contract. He is good and all but is also a distraction.

CaliforniaChief · 01-23-2013, 07:21 PM

I wouldn't give up what someone else would. And for an organization whose leadership has publicly stated that you build through the draft, you aren't going to give up picks for a CB coming off ACL. Or any CB. You trust your scouts to find the right guy and draft him.

O.city · 01-23-2013, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

I have no doubts that he will return to be a good player, but the question is how good?...he will want ELITE money, not "really good".

John Dorsey has been able to identify top notch corners in GB in the mid rounds.

I'd rather have a "Tramon Williams" for 10 years at a lower cap rate than a lesser version of Revis for 4, at the largest contract for a corner...especially when you factor in Emmitt Thomas.

Why would he not return to be elite? In this day and age, guys are coming back to be just as good with a new ACL as they were before.

And to be honest, I don't give a **** about the "cap". It can be manipulated either way to make room for guys. Also, it's not my money, so ****ing spend it.

So I'll take the best CB in the league, and draft one later on who can be developed by Emmit Thomas. Hell, you can get a top CB in next years class if you want.

**BossChief** · 01-23-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

What?

And wtf is football terms?

Pioli slipped during an interview (I'm not gonna dig it up, just trust me) and mentioned that he let Carr walk because he didn't want Flowers to feel "one upped" by Carr getting a larger contract than him. Silly, I know...but the truth.

"In football terms" meaning we would be trading for a player that is currently 27, but would be 28 by the time the 2013 season starts.

01-23-2013, 06:49 PM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Jets exploring trade options for Revis? Jets owner Woody Johnson to explore trading Darrelle Revis By Jason La Canfora \| CBS Sports NFL Insider January 23, 2013 7:28 pm ET The New York Jets, fresh off an exhaustive hunt for new general manager John Idzik, will explore options to deal star corner Darrelle Revis this offseason, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. Revis, whose contract voids after the 2014 season, is set to earn $6 million in 2013 (between salary and bonuses), and owner Woody Johnson has strong reservations about the ability to extend Revis's deal, the sources said. Johnson has expressed his desire to attempt to land value for Revis now, rather than risk losing him as an unrestricted free agent a year from now, most likely seeking as much draft-pick compensation for him as possible. The Jets are very much in transition mode, they have cap issues moving forward and are trying to embark on a rebuilding processafter firing former long-time general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Revis, who missed almost all of last season after suffering a torn ACL, engaged in a long holdout in 2010 that resulted in a contract extension that was more of a Band-Aid than anything else. Revis signed a seven-year deal then that voids to a four-year pact, thus making him an unrestricted free agent after the 2013 season. The deal also precludes him being hit with the franchise tag or any other such mechanism. Johnson has made it very clear he would like to pursue a means to reap rewards for Revis now, sources said, and it is likely to be an immediate part of Idzik's initial job duties. Revis is considered by many to be the best defensive player in the game. And with pass rusher Mario Williams earning$60 million guaranteedfrom Buffalo a year ago, Johnson understands how financially restrictive it would be to retain him. His team desperately needs young, cheap, impact players to help reposition the team for the future, with 2013 a year of transition. Revis is the only real trading chip that he has. Knee injury or not, there would be no shortage of teams interested in securing his services and no shortage of rebuilding teams sitting on massive cap space in 2013. The Jets are also likely to be hard-pressed to retain free agents like tight end Dustin Keller, running back Shonn Greene and defensive tackle Mike DeVito, though they will make a push to retain DeVito, the sources said. Getting Revis signed to an extension would be a possibility to trying to remedy this situation, but the sources said Johnson has established his desire to move him if he can secure fair value in exchange. Dealing Revis would incur a $9 million cap hit due to some option-bonus prorations involved in the contract -- thus Revis would count an additional $3 million against the cap than he is currently scheduled to -- but the Jets could navigate that relatively easily according to sources familiar with their cap situation, via a restructuring or by releasing a veteran. The team is using 2013 as a year for cap and budgetary housecleaning, to get situated for the future. It stands to reason that come 2014, both Revis and head coach Rex Ryan, are gone. Any interest?
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	I just don't view ACL's the same. I think he'll be fine, injury wise. And he probably deserves the contract he is gonna get, dudes a great cover CB. You would have the best CB tandem in the league, IMO. Flowers and Revis? Sure. If he's not worth it, who is? Let me ask this, would you be getting an equal talent if you draft a CB in the second round?
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