How come chester never gets any props for his play?

Fern Dog · 09-27-2000, 12:04 PM

I know that glock jumps off sides alot but i hate to think where our d would be without his presure up the middle. and it looks like dan williams is finally playing for all that cash carl threw at him!

Luzap · 09-27-2000, 12:09 PM

Uh - ohh! Chief Mohawk, how well do you "know" Clint?

flowergirl · 09-27-2000, 12:09 PM

Probably because he averages 1 or 2 tackles per game, and probably 1/10th of a sack per game...even though the rest of the D-line has stepped up big time, especially compared to last season.

I heard from others on this BB that Glock's numbers were going to go up when the ends started producing. I guess I heard wrong.

shakesthecat · 09-27-2000, 12:11 PM

Wasn't it Chester who pushed through and hit Frerotte's arm, creating the game clinching INT last week? I saw the replay 3 or 4 times, but still wasn't sure if Hicks or Glock made that play.

Little help here...

ct

Mosbonian · 09-27-2000, 12:14 PM

LOL! right in Clint's wheel house...needless to say, it didnt take long.

Does anyone know why the 'ends started producing'? Someone whisper to Clint that maybe it was cause of the double teams that Glock takes to be blocked.

Yosef_Malkovitch · 09-27-2000, 12:14 PM

Yes Cotyt, but since that isn't an official statistic, it doesn't count and you can't use it to defend/support Chester.

Luz
playing by clint's rules...

Fern Dog · 09-27-2000, 12:17 PM

I am from wichita but i dont know clint. Maybe you guys have a good point about the lack of tackles, because you dont hear his name called alot, but the point i was trying to make was that his presence in the middle does help our d line even though the individual stats dont meet our standards that you would like to see.

flowergirl · 09-27-2000, 12:18 PM

So, I guess that opponents are just going to single block Hicks, allowing him to get about 15 or 16 sacks, rather than single block the oh-so-dangerous McGlockton who might just go nuts and get 4 or 5 sacks.

flowergirl · 09-27-2000, 12:19 PM

Like I've said before, I'd be perfectly happy with McGlockton's performance...if he made about $500,000 to $750,000 per season.

shakesthecat · 09-27-2000, 12:19 PM

Tx Luz, I was hoping for a clarification before proceeding.

Just one quick Q for Clint: Who would you prefer to play NT for KC? And how much do you feel this position is worth in cap terms, to a defense?

OK, so I have 2 quick questions.

ct

Mosbonian · 09-27-2000, 12:20 PM

Mohawk: you are correct. His presence up the middle does stuff the run that way. We have been weak around the end, but havent been beat up the middle.

Glock did cause the game winning play and Clint did give the defense credit for the win against the broncos but obviously doesnt include Glock in that credit.

flowergirl · 09-27-2000, 12:23 PM

Wow. He made a difference FOR ONCE. IMO he's only the 3rd best DL in the starting lineup behind Hicks and Williams. I'd bet that Clemons will easily surpass him when he gets his arse healthy.

Yosef_Malkovitch · 09-27-2000, 12:23 PM

Mohawk,

Also understand that my responce is a tad on the sarcastic side!

Clint and I have been around the block on this one and the boy just refuses to listen to common sense [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Luz
very glad we have chester...

Fern Dog · 09-27-2000, 12:34 PM

I wonder what the stats would be on where clemons and hicks got most of there sacks at on the field? if most of the sacks were on the edges than i would say that the presure up the middle is good, but it seems like alot of the yards on the ground that the other team has got are plays that are bounced to the outside. I maybe wrong because i have not got to see all of the games on tv but i do not take a thing away from clemons or hicks because i think that they are playing very good.

G_Man · 09-27-2000, 12:44 PM

Mohawk - I will add something to the mix. This year the Chiefs have started to do something a little different then in the past, they are actually using stunts. A couple of Hicks sacks have been because of Chester taking his 2 guys far enough out of the way that Hicks has clear saling. There is one play that sticks out in my mind in the Chargers game, Chester pushed his two lineman back into the tackle who was trying to get around and stop the stunt, and he pushed all 3 guys backwards. That sack was all Chester, he was even standing there celebrating, because he knew it wouldn't have happened without him.

09-27-2000, 12:04 PM	Topic Starter
Fern Dog Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: La Puente, CA, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I know that glock jumps off sides alot but i hate to think where our d would be without his presure up the middle. and it looks like dan williams is finally playing for all that cash carl threw at him!
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09-27-2000, 12:09 PM	#2
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	Uh - ohh! Chief Mohawk, how well do you "know" Clint?
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09-27-2000, 12:09 PM	#3
flowergirl Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Russell ks usa Casino cash: $10004900	Probably because he averages 1 or 2 tackles per game, and probably 1/10th of a sack per game...even though the rest of the D-line has stepped up big time, especially compared to last season. I heard from others on this BB that Glock's numbers were going to go up when the ends started producing. I guess I heard wrong.
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09-27-2000, 12:11 PM	#4
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $4313833	Wasn't it Chester who pushed through and hit Frerotte's arm, creating the game clinching INT last week? I saw the replay 3 or 4 times, but still wasn't sure if Hicks or Glock made that play. Little help here... ct
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09-27-2000, 12:14 PM	#5
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2599700	LOL! right in Clint's wheel house...needless to say, it didnt take long. Does anyone know why the 'ends started producing'? Someone whisper to Clint that maybe it was cause of the double teams that Glock takes to be blocked.
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09-27-2000, 12:14 PM	#6
Yosef_Malkovitch The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wichita, KS. Casino cash: $4545999	Yes Cotyt, but since that isn't an official statistic, it doesn't count and you can't use it to defend/support Chester. Luz playing by clint's rules...
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09-27-2000, 12:17 PM	#7
Fern Dog Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: La Puente, CA, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I am from wichita but i dont know clint. Maybe you guys have a good point about the lack of tackles, because you dont hear his name called alot, but the point i was trying to make was that his presence in the middle does help our d line even though the individual stats dont meet our standards that you would like to see.
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09-27-2000, 12:18 PM	#8
flowergirl Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Russell ks usa Casino cash: $10004900	So, I guess that opponents are just going to single block Hicks, allowing him to get about 15 or 16 sacks, rather than single block the oh-so-dangerous McGlockton who might just go nuts and get 4 or 5 sacks.
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09-27-2000, 12:19 PM	#9
flowergirl Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Russell ks usa Casino cash: $10004900	Like I've said before, I'd be perfectly happy with McGlockton's performance...if he made about $500,000 to $750,000 per season.
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09-27-2000, 12:20 PM	#11
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2599700	Mohawk: you are correct. His presence up the middle does stuff the run that way. We have been weak around the end, but havent been beat up the middle. Glock did cause the game winning play and Clint did give the defense credit for the win against the broncos but obviously doesnt include Glock in that credit.
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09-27-2000, 12:23 PM	#12
flowergirl Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Russell ks usa Casino cash: $10004900	Wow. He made a difference FOR ONCE. IMO he's only the 3rd best DL in the starting lineup behind Hicks and Williams. I'd bet that Clemons will easily surpass him when he gets his arse healthy.
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09-27-2000, 12:34 PM	#14
Fern Dog Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: La Puente, CA, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I wonder what the stats would be on where clemons and hicks got most of there sacks at on the field? if most of the sacks were on the edges than i would say that the presure up the middle is good, but it seems like alot of the yards on the ground that the other team has got are plays that are bounced to the outside. I maybe wrong because i have not got to see all of the games on tv but i do not take a thing away from clemons or hicks because i think that they are playing very good.
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09-27-2000, 12:44 PM	#15
G_Man Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Mohawk - I will add something to the mix. This year the Chiefs have started to do something a little different then in the past, they are actually using stunts. A couple of Hicks sacks have been because of Chester taking his 2 guys far enough out of the way that Hicks has clear saling. There is one play that sticks out in my mind in the Chargers game, Chester pushed his two lineman back into the tackle who was trying to get around and stop the stunt, and he pushed all 3 guys backwards. That sack was all Chester, he was even standing there celebrating, because he knew it wouldn't have happened without him.
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