Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

[Saul Good]

Just curious to see who uses or has used these types of products and what your experiences were.

Did you have a specific reason for using them?

Did they work?

Did you experience any side effects?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Wow, you are not in tune with society at all are you? I see commercial after commercial with fat balding goofy guy with hot petite woman. It's way more common than the other way. And it has been for awhile. I can't even believe for a second that men are under the same scrutiny that women are when it comes to weight and looks and the value attached. It's not even close. I'm not saying men aren't scrutinized, but not nearly as heavily as women. I can't tell you how many times I've come across a bunch of fat, sloppy dudes putting down a woman because she has a muffin top, or her tits aren't perfect enough.

I guess not. Maybe it's because I fast forward through the commercials or the fact that I know many super hot women that are married to guys that are in very good shape. I can't think of a single "fat man" that's married to a hot woman that I know of, have seen or know personally.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Men like Sean Connery can win sexist man alive at age 70, but I can't even think of woman who won Sexiest woman alive that was over 40.

If you're using People magazine as your baseline, then yeah, images are skewed. But is that people in real life base their views upon?

FWIW, Connery was named sexiest man alive in 1989, when he was 59 years old.

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Woman are scrutinized more and we know it. I can't go to a beach and tell you how many fat women are there vs hot women, but I can tell you that women are more conscience of their fat hanging out and are more apt not to go to a pool party, whereas guys have no issue with it typically because no one cares, as you say. They don't care because its more socially acceptable. Plain and simple.

I have to thoroughly disagree. I see plenty of beautiful women in their 30's, 40's and 50's that wear flattering one piece bathing suits and even bikinis without issue.

To contrary, I rarely, if ever, see fat guys walking around in Speedos. Sure, there are overweight men that don't mind going shirtless with board shorts but Speedos?

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Again, I know men have their own issues with body image, vanity etc...but to say its equal is ridiculous.

If you're a "normal" person for your age range, there shouldn't be an issue. If you're obese for your age range, I can understand the body issue but there's nothing wrong with a nice one-piece.

Personally, I think it's more mental than physical. Either your confident in yourself, or you're not.

[xztop123]

I wonder the true % of average guys you see at clubs or at pool partys getting girls that are on some kind of steroid. I know from conversations with hot girls that almost all girls have dated at least one juice head(hot girls)...

Also I think they have potential in some diseases such ALS...

[xztop123]

Also Pro-hormones are 50 times more dangerous than injectable test.

Deca can make your dick not work. Tren is a nightmare that i wouldnt touch. All orals are crap except anavar.

[Silock]

It doesn't shock me that there are this many people on CP that have done steroids.

I mean, just walking around my gym at peak time, you can pick out at least 7 guys that are on something.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I believe they're cheating only if the rule book says they're cheating.

When McGuire and Sosa broke the home run record, they weren't cheating because it hadn't been deemed illegal by MLB.

Same goes for Bonds. I was at the Dodgers game when he was stuck on 714. I wanted to see history. I went the following night, only to see him hitless again. The very next night in San Diego, he tied Hank Aaron and broke the record thereafter.

I should have gone to San Diego.

That said, if some of the league is using performance enhancing drugs and some aren't, it doesn't make for a very level playing field. I'd prefer it to be either completely illegal or completely legal.

Yea great logic Dane except you are dead wrong. Steroids were banned by MLB in 1991.

A quick Google search will confirm that for you.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Yep I checked out. $400 a month. They shoot a pebble the size of a hampster turd in your ass. It's a slow release that lasts a month or 3. It was either my kid's college degree or my youth...it was a tough choice.

$400 for a barely noticeable difference... what a rip off.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Silock

It doesn't shock me that there are this many people on CP that have done steroids.

I mean, just walking around my gym at peak time, you can pick out at least 7 guys that are on something.

Well, this is a forum that is probably 99% guys, all sports fans so you have to imagine a good portion at some time in their life have been into working out and then a small % of those have done something with steroids.

I did exactly 1 cycle, loved it, but realized it wasn't going to be a long term plan for me. Just too much hassle.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Also Pro-hormones are 50 times more dangerous than injectable test.

Deca can make your dick not work. Tren is a nightmare that i wouldnt touch. All orals are crap except anavar.

I'm with you on this. I have always been a test-only guy, however the two orals I would recommend are anavar and proviron. Both are expensive and for a reason. My favorite cycle by far is test prop 100mg Eod, with 50mg proviron ed. Nice and easy, no sides at all and you pretty much keep all your gains since there is a low amount of aromitization.

[TheGuardian]

Halotestin is awesome, and I hate orals for the most part. Not ORAL, before the comedian shows up. I love getting blown.

Every compound has different sides both good and bad for the user.

I hate winny, but some guys love it. It made me feel very spacey and made my BP go through the roof.

Var is ok.

I loved turinibol. Really, really good oral with no sides and massive strength gains.

I hated tren. Though I'm thinking of giving the enanthate version a run since the sides are supposed to be less.

I like dbol. Who doesn't?

Most of you guys I see run pretty low dose stuff. Myself and the guys I compete against well, it's a different story.

The other day a couple of buddies of mine were talking about their cycle and one of them said "I'm taking a gram of test a week, 600mg of tren a week, and 50mg of anavar a day." My other friend goes..."why are you training natural?"

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yea great logic Dane except you are dead wrong. Steroids were banned by MLB in 1991.

A quick Google search will confirm that for you.

It doesn't matter that MLB banned steroids. The Cardinals, Cubs, and Giants didn't have team rules against them, so it was perfectly legal.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yea great logic Dane except you are dead wrong.

That seems to be a theme in this thread. I don't think he has acknowledged some steroids are legal.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess not. Maybe it's because I fast forward through the commercials or the fact that I know many super hot women that are married to guys that are in very good shape. I can't think of a single "fat man" that's married to a hot woman that I know of, have seen or know personally.



If you're using People magazine as your baseline, then yeah, images are skewed. But is that people in real life base their views upon?

FWIW, Connery was named sexiest man alive in 1989, when he was 59 years old.



I have to thoroughly disagree. I see plenty of beautiful women in their 30's, 40's and 50's that wear flattering one piece bathing suits and even bikinis without issue.

To contrary, I rarely, if ever, see fat guys walking around in Speedos. Sure, there are overweight men that don't mind going shirtless with board shorts but Speedos?



If you're a "normal" person for your age range, there shouldn't be an issue. If you're obese for your age range, I can understand the body issue but there's nothing wrong with a nice one-piece.

Personally, I think it's more mental than physical. Either your confident in yourself, or you're not.

Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It doesn't matter that MLB banned steroids. The Cardinals, Cubs, and Giants didn't have team rules against them, so it was perfectly legal.

Medicinal use only.

If they needed to focus they could also smoke some weed.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.

Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

The other day a couple of buddies of mine were talking about their cycle and one of them said "I'm taking a gram of test a week, 600mg of tren a week, and 50mg of anavar a day." My other friend goes..."why are you training natural?"

Lol insanity