Royals 2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 581

**alnorth** · 10:54 PM

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:

Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

**alnorth** · 11-29-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Latest from Dutton:

Royals might nontender Paulino

Words cannot adequately describe my level of rage if they keep Hochevar and cut Paulino. I would be furious.

uhh... his elbow had better be completely destroyed.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Actually, what's probably gonna happen is DM will snatch up Jurrjens and then proclaim he's got his ace and completed his staff.

well, lmao, Jurrjens + Santana + Guthrie is a vast improvement of the shit we had last year.

Jurrjens and Santana are both lower end #2's, probably ok #3's, really.

So we'd have 3 pretty good #3's on our team! NOT BAD

**Reaper16** · 11-29-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

well, lmao, Jurrjens + Santana + Guthrie is a vast improvement of the shit we had last year.

Jurrjens and Santana are both lower end #2's, probably ok #3's, really.

So we'd have 3 pretty good #3's on our team! NOT BAD

Jurrjens is a #5. He's Brian Bannister, basically.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Jurrjens is a #5. He's Brian Bannister, basically.

He's definitely not a power pitcher, that's for sure...but he's 26 and has had 2 very good seasons and 1 quality season in the NL...not sure why that would equate to a #5 after 1 injury plagued year but I tend to look at things from a fantasy baseball perspective more than from a real baseball perspective so I admit my views are often flawed.

Shit I thought we won the lottery last year when we got Sanchez for Cabrera.

**DeezNutz** · 11-29-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

He's definitely not a power pitcher, that's for sure...but he's 26 and has had 2 very good seasons and 1 quality season in the NL...not sure why that would equate to a #5 after 1 injury plagued year but I tend to look at things from a fantasy baseball perspective more than from a real baseball perspective so I admit my views are often flawed.

Shit I thought we won the lottery last year when we got Sanchez for Cabrera.

His peripheral numbers are dog shit. Complete and utter dog shit. SO/9 last year: 3.5. In '11: 5.3.

No thanks.

siberian khatru · 11-29-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

uhh... his elbow had better be completely destroyed.

More like Dayton's brain is.

I was afraid of this. To "save money," they're ****ing gonna cut Paulino and keep Hochevar. You watch.

**DeezNutz** · 11-29-2012, 04:38 PM

It's 800K. I cannot even fathom the stupidity.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

His peripheral numbers are dog shit. Complete and utter dog shit. SO/9 last year: 3.5. In '11: 5.3.

No thanks.

yeah I know...his K/9 has always been shit, and I do prefer the new aged power pitcher...

but at the end of the day if he's getting outs who gives a shit?

**alnorth** · 11-29-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

yeah I know...his K/9 has always been shit, and I do prefer the new aged power pitcher...

but at the end of the day if he's getting outs who gives a shit?

He hasn't been pitching long enough to ignore the peripherals. If he was 34 you might think "well, he's just one of those rare guys who does better than what he's supposed to", but he's just 26. He's risen and fallen on his babip. In 2009 and 2011 he got lucky. In 2010, his babip was roughly about as expected, and in 2012 he was very unlucky.

He's a roughly 4.5 ERA pitcher, not worthless, but he's not winning us many games.

**DeezNutz** · 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

not worthless, but he's not winning us many games.

In other words, he's not Hoch.

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

He hasn't been pitching long enough to ignore the peripherals. If he was 34 you might think "well, he's just one of those rare guys who does better than what he's supposed to", but he's just 26. He's risen and fallen on his babip. In 2009 and 2011 he got lucky. In 2010, his babip was roughly about as expected, and in 2012 he was very unlucky.

He's a roughly 4.5 ERA pitcher, not worthless, but he's not winning us many games.

Fair enough. I'd take him as a reasonable #4 though, don't you think?

**DeezNutz** · 11-29-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Fair enough. I'd take him as a reasonable #4 though, don't you think?

Statistically, he's below replacement level and he made $5.5M last year. If we're talking about anywhere close to this type of contract, it's literally throwing away money.

**alnorth** · 11-29-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Fair enough. I'd take him as a reasonable #4 though, don't you think?

I might sign him if he's cheap and if I had room on the 40-man. Someone will get hurt, and he could be depth.

Sure-Oz · 11-29-2012, 05:00 PM

Hochevar ****ing better be gone

Hootie · 11-29-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Statistically, he's below replacement level and he made $5.5M last year. If we're talking about anywhere close to this type of contract, it's literally throwing away money.

Cool. Thanks for the info, drastically changed my opinion on the guy.