Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Hootie]

PLEASE READ AND EXPLAIN: STOP TRYING TO CHERRY PICK STATS: THIS IS 2005 - 2013 WITH NO SKIPPED YEARS: THIS IS CALLED CHOKING. IT IS THE VERY DEFINTION:

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

[RunKC]

People can shit on my thread all you want, but my God. First Rodgers is overrated and now Brady isn't clutch.

[Hootie]

as soon as someone can tell me how 2005 - 2013 postseason Brady isn't a choker, I'll eat my plate of crow.

I EAGERLY await.

[Nightfyre]

I am "cherry picking" his stats by picking his career playoff record, his championships won in his conference and in the league?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, this is absolute proof that this board, and the media, and everyone else has no idea what clutch QB play is.

Because many think Tom Brady is the clutchest QB ever.

And it took me 15 minutes to disprove that.

And about ten seconds for me to prove what a complete tool you are.

Most playoff wins EVAH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

Most division titles EVAH:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/...ivision-titles

Tied, most conference championship games played EVAH (with some schmuck named Joe Montana):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Tied, most conference championships won EVAH (with some schlemiel named John Elway):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Highest winning percentage of ANY NFL QB EVAH (need to use the sorting function):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_quarterback


Have fun with the rest of your sucktastic thread.

[Hootie]

Rodgers better get to the NFCCG and play, at the very least, one hell of a game or he's in the same boat as Peyton and Brady as a player who is an elite regular season QB and a guy who continuously comes up short in the postseason.

Rodgers certainly passes every eye test ever invented. Now he's gotta start winning postseason games. 1 good postseason doesn't make a QB.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

And about ten seconds for me to prove what a complete tool you are.

Most playoff wins EVAH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_sta...layoff_records

Most division titles EVAH:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/...ivision-titles

Tied, most conference championship games played EVAH (with some schmuck named Joe Montana):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Tied, most conference championships won EVAH (with some schlemiel named John Elway):
http://www.businessinsider.com/quart...the-day-2013-1

Highest winning percentage of ANY NFL QB EVAH (need to use the sorting function):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ng_quarterback


Have fun with the rest of your sucktastic thread.

The PATRIOTS are a great team. Brady has NEVER been a clutch QB. Please respond DIRECTLY to this post and also explain his 4.2 QBR @ home against the Jets and his 8.7 QBR @ home against the Ravens the very next game the very next postseason.

DO NOT IGNORE THIS. I AM TIRED OF YOU HIDING FROM HIS CHOKE JOB PERFORMANCES:

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

[Nightfyre]

But 0 good postseasons makes Romo a legend.

[Nightfyre]

Romo's QBR in his playoff years:
2006: 50
2007: 55.3
2009: 45.8

Brady's:

2006: 60.2
2007: 61.5
2009: 4.2
2010: 8.7
2011: 74.8
2012: 57.3
2013: 70





Yep. Definitely less clutch than Romo. /sarcasm

[Ming the Merciless]

2nd best qb to ever touch a football

[Iconic]

He's had 33 4th quarter comebacks in his career. That's two more than Joe Montana.

[RunKC]

Hootie is shitting all over Brady's 2013 for not playing well in big games in the playoffs but the other thread but he's pumping Wilson in another thread.

vs NO-9/18 103 yards and 0 TD's
Vs SF-16/25 215 yards 1 TD's

He was sure clutch these games

[Hootie]

please quote where I said Romo was a legend

Romo is elite. He's underrated. He's in no way, shape or form a legend.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

2nd best qb to ever touch a football

Who's better?

[Ming the Merciless]

Hootie is going full on spazz right now

No special Ed class so didn't take his Ritalin?