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Old 02-24-2013, 04:56 PM  
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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


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so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:59 PM   #2161
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The other thing you're missing here is that even if he is a mistake, it's a mistake we can all live with. Most Geno fans agree that he is worth the #1 overall pick, but very few are saying is is a sure thing HOF, Super Bowl winning QB.

This team, right now, needs to take the chance. I mean this thread is over 2,000 posts, this has been said, but we need to take a QB. If he doesn't pan out, fine, take another one. This risk averse bullshit has to stop, this year.
I'm actually an advocate of MORE risk, not less.

I say try to trade down and see if you can still get Geno.

Peeps on here don't like that one either.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:01 PM   #2162
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I'm actually an advocate of MORE risk, not less.

I say try to trade down and see if you can still get Geno.

Peeps on here don't like that one either.
Thats because its stupid.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:01 PM   #2163
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So if it comes up when say the Ravens pick and QB is BPA, do they take QB?
If a QB is the BPA when they pick then they should have no problem finding a trade partner.

Sometimes you recognize that the BPA isn't at a position of need so you either take him or trade to a team that really wants him and get the guy you want later.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:01 PM   #2164
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I'm actually an advocate of MORE risk, not less.

I say try to trade down and see if you can still get Geno.

Peeps on here don't like that one either.
That might be because Geno will not make it past Jax, Oakland or Zona.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #2165
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Who?

Luke Joeckel/Eric Fisher? The Chiefs don't need a tackle unless they stupidly let Brandon Albert walk.

Star Lotulelei? Heart condition renders any chance of this hopeless.

Bjoern Werner? The guy would be the 6th/7th best DE in most drafts.

Jarvis Jones? Spinal stenosis has taken him completely OFF most draft boards. Also is an OLB/pass rusher, a position the Chiefs have excellent players at (and a position that can be found in later rounds, too). He's not a once-in-a-lifetime OLB.

Dee Milliner? Solid corner, not a star corner.

Chance Warmack? At the end of the day, still a guard. I wouldn't take Will Shields with the first overall pick. Talk about a reach...
Theres the issue. If not Geno, who?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #2166
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Thats because its stupid.
If you say so.

It worked for the 49ers, Cowboys, and Patriots in thier SB years but hey, what do they know.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #2167
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Marvin have u watched Geno play?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #2168
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Yeah. You are arguing that Rodgers and Smith were a toss up. The 9ers reached for one and the other dropped. At the time, taking either one at the top was considered a reach. So what?
WTF are you talking about? Rodgers wasn't considered a reach. He was considered a RISK. Two very different things.

So once again, what was riskier? Taking or not taking Aaron Rodgers, and how well did it work out for the teams that weren't willing to take that Risk?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #2169
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If you say so.

It worked for the 49ers, Cowboys, and Patriots in thier SB years but hey, what do they know.
So you think we should aim for another brady? Is that what you are saying?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:04 PM   #2170
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I'm actually an advocate of MORE risk, not less.

I say try to trade down and see if you can still get Geno.

Peeps on here don't like that one either.
People don't like that idea because if a team is willing to move UP, it's to take Smith.

Unless you're stupid enough to believe that a team will pay what it takes to move up in order to draft Jackoff....
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:04 PM   #2171
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First off, BPA isn't strictly BPA. It factors in multiple things, including need.

The Ravens wouldn't have a QB at BPA there, because of need, they wouldn't rank them that high.

Unless it's a crazy drop ala Rodgers.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:04 PM   #2172
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Theres the issue. If not Geno, who?
Despite my seeming insanity, this is QUITE relevant to my position on the topic.

Is Geno perfect? No. But there isn't ANYBODY in this draft that is.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:05 PM   #2173
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That might be because Geno will not make it past Jax, Oakland or Zona.
I think he makes it past Jax (been burned) and Oak (have Palmer...maybe...and not really Reggies style).....you may be right about Arizona tho. They in particular may look at him as an answer to Kaep and Wilson.
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If a QB is the BPA when they pick then they should have no problem finding a trade partner.

Sometimes you recognize that the BPA isn't at a position of need so you either take him or trade to a team that really wants him and get the guy you want later.
Or you pull a Chargers/Green Bay deal and develop him to either replace your guy or gain picks/leverage later.
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First off, BPA isn't strictly BPA. It factors in multiple things, including need.

The Ravens wouldn't have a QB at BPA there, because of need, they wouldn't rank them that high.

Unless it's a crazy drop ala Rodgers.
QB absolutely IS a need for the Ravens, just like LT for us.

They're gonna let Flacco walk and draft a QB, just like us with Albert/Joeckel.

Amirite?
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