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Victoria's Secret Show Angers Native Americans

When do we get to be done with having to hear this crap? It's hot bitches in undergarments FFS

By Richard Ruelas The Republic | azcentral.com Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:18 AM

The Victoria’s Secret might have meant to tease and titillate. It ended up sparking outrage among Native Americans for having model Karlie Kloss walk out wearing a headdress that flowed to the ground.

Photos of the Wednesday night fashion show were posted online and comments, mainly from the Native American community, followed.

In an article posted on lastrealindians.com , Ruth Hopkins wrote that the costume added to the hyper-sexualization of Native women. yea right She also said the war bonnet is considered, among her Sioux tribe, an honor worn only by someone who displayed valor in battle.

“We’re a people, not a trend,” she wrote. “We don’t wear costumes. We dress in regalia, and every single piece means something special.”

The Victoria’s Secret Facebook page has been peppered with outraged comments. Linda Kewanimptewa of Prescott posted that she was boycotting the store. oh please, don't stop bringing in your beads to trade. Victoria's Secret will go out of business without people like you. “I loved your stores so much,” she wrote, “but thanks for disrespecting my culture!”

A petition on change.org has asked the lingerie company to apologize. The Victoria’s Secret fashion show is scheduled to air on CBS on Dec. 4.

In September, the handbag and clothing company Paul Frank held a pow-wow-themed fashion show that featured plastic tomahawks. It apologized after complaints from the Native American community.

Earlier this month, No Doubt premiered a video for its new song, “Looking Hot.” It had singer Gwen Stefani wearing a headband and beaded dress and battling band members dressed as black hat-wearing cowboys. The band pulled the video down on Monday after receiving complaints from F.A.I.R. Media, which promotes accurate representations of indigenous people. Idiots. As if Gwen didn't make that look better than it ever has and do your image a favor

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:38 PM   #76
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Here's how you can tell if Native Americans have it worse than any other ethnic group.

A. Check out Chief Wahoo, the mascot of the Cleveland Indians.

Great logo. Shut the **** up.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:39 PM   #77
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You obviously put a lot of thought and effort into this post. I feel kinda' bad for not reading it.
Was there more than the part I just quoted? I hadn't noticed.

Come to think of it, I didn't read all of that part either.
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My grandma (mom's mother) was pure Blackfoot. So Im 1/4 there plus there is a lot of Cherokee on my dad's side. If I want to trash talk my own people I will. That's what those ****ers get for tearing up our railroads.
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As far as I know there isn't a single German mascot or icon. When you look at just how many krauts there are in this country that's crazy.

I mean "The Fighting Irish?" Really? The Germans helped launch 2 world wars for ****'s sake.

Time to hit the interwebnets...I want a good racist German mascot...
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As far as I know there isn't a single German mascot or icon. When you look at just how many krauts there are in this country that's crazy.

I mean "The Fighting Irish?" Really? The Germans helped launch 2 world wars for ****'s sake.

Time to hit the interwebnets...I want a good racist German mascot...
I think that this one didn't last:

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Here's how you can tell if Native Americans have it worse than any other ethnic group.

A. Check out Chief Wahoo, the mascot of the Cleveland Indians.



Now imagine it as black, Latino, Asian, Jewish, Arabic, or any other nationality in the world. How do you think members of that nationality would react?

B. Consider the name "Redskins". As above, apply it to any other, using an equivalent term. How long would it take before the corporate headquarters was stormed?

C. Imagine if this thread was about blacks, Latinos, Asians, Jews, Arabs, or any other nationality. How would it have gone over if the equivalent of any of these were said about them?









D. Imagine a black, Latino, Asian, Jew or Arab wanting to return to his homeland - to see the heritage of his ancestors, to meet the people descended from their common origins, to see the land from which his family came. Now imagine a Native American wanting to do the same. He can't, because you're standing on it.

E. Imagine if you were a Native American. Imagine growing up on a reservation, where your people were herded centuries ago, and living your whole life in probably the most rampant poverty in the nation. Imagine hearing your grandparents tell of when the schoolteachers would beat them with sticks if they displayed their cultural heritage at all, and seeing the faces of the leaders of the people who victimized you for years blasted into the rock wall of your holy land, to great acclaim. Imagine growing up seeing your people depicted in the movies by Italians and Spaniards, and reading all about European heroes and explorers in history class, but hearing names like Massasoit, Chief Joseph, Opchanacanough, Black Elk, Sequoyah, and Mankiller only at home. Imagine living with this every day of your life, watching the grand history of all of your people vanish by inches from the only place on Earth where it exists, and see anyone who stands up to fight for it dismissed as a drunk, an idiot, or a drunken idiot. Now imagine that one of the few sacred cultural symbols you have left is glamorized and propped on the head of a white runway model in a fashion show.

Sure, there are Natives with a giant chip on their shoulder against white people. There are a lot of them. There are also a lot of white people with giant chips on their shoulders against Natives (some of them in this very thread). Who do you think is more justified in having that chip? And regardless, is it fair to color an entire race of people based only on the ones you stumble across in a Flagstaff 7-11?

Last thing, I promise: In rereading what I just wrote, it occurs to me that this post, while true, is also a preachy, depressing, pompous bloviation on my part. Sorry about that. By way of atonement, I offer you this YouTube about Joe Medicine Crow, a war hero and inspiration, in an effort to temper this atrocity of a post. Enjoy.

Pretty good post.
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Follow the links. I'm fond of Mesa Verde myself.

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Follow the links. I'm fond of Mesa Verde myself.

Yeah. Folks took us there when we were kids, couldn't believe it was real.
Those people lived up so high. How they hell could they have made that by hand? So cool.
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Yeah. Folks took us there when we were kids, couldn't believe it was real.
Those people lived up so high. How they hell could they have made that by hand? So cool.
My dad took me up there as a teen. It's an incredible experience. Especially if you've been spoon fed "history" like I was as a child. Here is this city created in a cliff. As complex as a European castle. Built by "savages."
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You can check their references yourself, they cite basically every non-opinion thing they claim. One of their references is a resolution passed by congress recognizing the influence of the Iroquois Confederacy on the US Constitution.
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Follow the links. I'm fond of Mesa Verde myself.
I did and it seemed factual but I noticed it was a humor site so I had to ask.

I found the bit about the Vikings interesting. I had heard they had sailed to Nova Scotia as early as 1200 AD but never heard of any encounters with the natives, and definitely not as early as 960 AD.

There just so much information, and with that misinformation, out there. I wish I could know it all!
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