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Old 10-17-2017, 06:36 PM  
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:34 AM   #451
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Question here - because you do know your stuff - Did you ever see Jordan play? If so, how long?
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:37 AM   #452
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Question here - because you do know your stuff - Did you ever see Jordan play? If so, how long?
I can answer that question for KC:

No.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:37 AM   #453
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Those Philly/LA matchups are just a ton of fun.

Someone has to explain to me how the hell Embiid doesn't go off for 35/15/5/5 every single night. How the hell do you slow that guy down? I mean, the answer clearly isn't Brooke Lopez (oh, you poor poor man), but there can't be more than 2-3 big men in the entire league that have the footwork to stay in front of him and the bulk to keep from just getting backed down.

Oh, and if you do, he'll just hit a goddamn 26 footer from straightaway. Because evidently he does THAT now as well. Fan!@#$ingtastic!

He has good timing when contesting shots and even when he doesn't, the officials are slow with the whistle. He's a good passer and has everything you could ask for from a rebounder. The guy's just damn near impossible to stop.

The one thing I did notice last night was that Randle was clearly pissed about getting de-pantsed in LA. He fought Embiid hard. Those guys were all but fist-fighting to find space in the paint and Randle simply refused to quit on a defensive possession. He was still outgunned physically, but he managed to hold his own alright by simply using everything he had every time down the court on the defensive end. And if he fouled Embiid, he by god fouled him. He wasn't gonna let him have the and 1.

Ingram's shot to win it was about the purest 'THWACK' I've heard as a ball went down all season. I mean he just bulls-eyed that shot.

That was two young teams that were treating it like a playoff game and letting it all hang out. You'd be hard pressed to find a more entertaining game to this point in the season, IMO.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:45 AM   #454
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Question here - because you do know your stuff - Did you ever see Jordan play? If so, how long?
His basketball knowledge is impressive it's a shame he is a LeBronie because he makes some really stupid statements due to that.

Just off the top of my head Kobe's 2005-2006 season is better than what LeBron is currently doing

35.1 ppg, 4.5 apg, 5,4 rpg, 1.8 spg including a game where he scored 81-pts

LeBron relies on assists and his teammates far more than true scorers like Kobe and MJ did
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:19 PM   #455
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LeBron relies on assists and his teammates far more than true scorers like Kobe and MJ did
So you are celebrating the fact that Jordan and Kobe were some of the biggest ball hogs in NBA history?
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:31 PM   #456
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So you are celebrating the fact that Jordan and Kobe were some of the biggest ball hogs in NBA history?
Chicago celebrated that fact throughout the 90s
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:39 PM   #457
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Question here - because you do know your stuff - Did you ever see Jordan play? If so, how long?
Yes, the years after he returned from his ridiculous baseball retirement (can you imagine the ridicule if LeBron attempted something like that in this day and age?).

The only argument MJ is going to have is peak because LeBron's longevity is unmatched (and LeBron's peak was just as good as MJ's, if not better). He's going to absolutely shatter every single record in the books at this rate.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:06 PM   #458
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Yes, the years after he returned from his ridiculous baseball retirement (can you imagine the ridicule if LeBron attempted something like that in this day and age?).

The only argument MJ is going to have is peak because LeBron's longevity is unmatched (and LeBron's peak was just as good as MJ's, if not better). He's going to absolutely shatter every single record in the books at this rate.
Except rings, Finals MVP's, All-Defensive team honors, Scoring averages, Finals scoring averages, etc..

Jordan did pretty much everything better than Lebron and did it in a shorter time period
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:05 PM   #459
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Yes, the years after he returned from his ridiculous baseball retirement (can you imagine the ridicule if LeBron attempted something like that in this day and age?).

The only argument MJ is going to have is peak because LeBron's longevity is unmatched (and LeBron's peak was just as good as MJ's, if not better). He's going to absolutely shatter every single record in the books at this rate.
Ok -Now I understand why you have some of the takes that you do regarding M.J. and LeBron, and why you have way more passion when discussing LeBron. I'm that way when discussing Centers. I didn't see Chamberlin and Russell play very much, (Wilt only a had full of times at the end of his career, and was I too young to really remember, and never saw Russell play at all). Had I, my opinion on the NBA's greatest Centers would no doubt be different than it is today.
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Those Philly/LA matchups are just a ton of fun.

Someone has to explain to me how the hell Embiid doesn't go off for 35/15/5/5 every single night. How the hell do you slow that guy down? I mean, the answer clearly isn't Brooke Lopez (oh, you poor poor man), but there can't be more than 2-3 big men in the entire league that have the footwork to stay in front of him and the bulk to keep from just getting backed down.

Oh, and if you do, he'll just hit a goddamn 26 footer from straightaway. Because evidently he does THAT now as well. Fan!@#$ingtastic!

He has good timing when contesting shots and even when he doesn't, the officials are slow with the whistle. He's a good passer and has everything you could ask for from a rebounder. The guy's just damn near impossible to stop.

The one thing I did notice last night was that Randle was clearly pissed about getting de-pantsed in LA. He fought Embiid hard. Those guys were all but fist-fighting to find space in the paint and Randle simply refused to quit on a defensive possession. He was still outgunned physically, but he managed to hold his own alright by simply using everything he had every time down the court on the defensive end. And if he fouled Embiid, he by god fouled him. He wasn't gonna let him have the and 1.

Ingram's shot to win it was about the purest 'THWACK' I've heard as a ball went down all season. I mean he just bulls-eyed that shot.

That was two young teams that were treating it like a playoff game and letting it all hang out. You'd be hard pressed to find a more entertaining game to this point in the season, IMO.
I really WANT to like Philly, but I still hate how badly they f'd up their drafts outside of Embiid and Simmons. They had top 10 pick after top 10 pick and they failed over and over and over. Even now, Fultz looks like another screw up.
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I really WANT to like Philly, but I still hate how badly they f'd up their drafts outside of Embiid and Simmons. They had top 10 pick after top 10 pick and they failed over and over and over. Even now, Fultz looks like another screw up.
Noel and Okafor are the only fails

but that was the point of tanking, getting 5 tries at the loterry and coming away with 2/5 with superstar potential is a huge success. proves what they did worked. you know how many superstars come out of each draft, sometimes 1, sometimes 0 sometimes 5. its a crapshoot
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Spurs 18-8 wout King Kawhi... Just beat the Celtics... Now King Kawhi is coming back next Tuesday... Be scared NBA, be very scared!!
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Spurs 18-8 wout King Kawhi... Just beat the Celtics... Now King Kawhi is coming back next Tuesday... Be scared NBA, be very scared!!
I don't think the NBA need fear the Spurs anymore than usual, because we all know they're very good. However, there are several teams that are just as good - maybe even better - and two are in their own conference.
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Spurs 18-8 wout King Kawhi... Just beat the Celtics... Now King Kawhi is coming back next Tuesday... Be scared NBA, be very scared!!
Yep.

They would have had another ring if Kawhi stayed healthy last year
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I know the current Bulls don't even deserve a mention in this thread, but I watch them for reasons I can't explain outside of Chiefs/Royals syndrome. I swear every one of these guys has Andy Reid's internal clock, total choke show down the stretch. Anyway, I'm hoping Markkanen can emerge as a closer and I also enjoy listening to Stacey King on the broadcast getting fatter as the season goes on. Dude looks like he swallowed Whitlock whole.
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