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Old 03-10-2019, 11:39 AM  
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Thoughts on this PC

Win10 simply isn't working on my 12 year old computer. I've given up on trying to get the two to play nice. It's a fundamental driver issue and as stubborn as I am when it comes to troubleshooting I have nor the time or the patience to start hacking drivers on a decade old PC.

What's your thoughts on the value of this PC:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's ceiling would need to be say, Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, MS Office, and 3D CAD.

Nerd thoughts? I'm thinking as long as sold as advertised it's a pretty good deal.

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Old 03-10-2019, 11:52 AM   #2
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Just MHO:

For gaming and document processing it would be average. I don't know what the processing requirements are for CAD, you'd need to look into that.
It doesn't appear to have a solid state drive (SSD) and the reviews indicate you may need to add a better ethernet adapter if you use wifi. I can't see what kind of cooling set up it has.

The Cyberpower rig they have listed next to it is a better set up for the same money:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-...ct_top?ie=UTF8

One good way to get a read on pre-built rigs is to read the reviews on NewEgg. Those comments tend to sometimes be more useful than Amazon.

https://www.newegg.com/Gaming-Deskto...742?Tid=897483


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Old 03-10-2019, 12:04 PM   #3
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Just MHO:

For gaming and document processing it would be average. I don't know what the processing requirements are for CAD, you'd need to look into that.
It doesn't appear to have a solid state drive (SSD) and the reviews indicate you may need to add a better ethernet adapter if you use wifi. I can't see what kind of cooling set up it has.

The Cyberpower rig they have listed next to it is a better set up for the same money:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-...ct_top?ie=UTF8

One good way to get a read on pre-built rigs is to read the reviews on NewEgg. Those comments tend to be a lot more knowledgeable and useful than Amazon.

https://www.newegg.com/Gaming-Deskto...742?Tid=897483


AMD RYZEN 5 1400 4-Core 3.2 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo) | Average processor, relatively low powered
1 TB 7200RPM Hard Drive | Sufficient. It's sure nice to have a SSD as well though.
A320 Micro-ATX Motherboard doesn't say what brand, this mobo though is on the lower end
16GB G. Skill Ripjaws Gaming Memory DDR4 2400 MHz with Heat Spreader (Not Generic Memory) | Solid, plenty of ram
Windows 10 Home
GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5 Graphics Card |Decent gaming card
Video Output: Dual-link DVI,
DisplayPort (version 1.4), HDMI | 5 x USB 3.0, 3 x USB 2.0
Thanks brother!

If you asked me to buy a pre-assembled PC 5 years ago I would honestly give you the stink eye but I just want to plug and play at this point if I'm not getting paid. Too many hobbies.

I'll check NewEgg reviews. I'm in the Honda Civic market, don't need a Porsche.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:10 PM   #4
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Thanks brother!

If you asked me to buy a pre-assembled PC 5 years ago I would honestly give you the stink eye but I just want to plug and play at this point if I'm not getting paid. Too many hobbies.

I'll check NewEgg reviews. I'm in the Honda Civic market, don't need a Porsche.
Prebuilts these days are better than they have ever been, nothing wrong with going that route. That Cyberpower rig on Amazon is a good unit at a good price and it comes with a (small)SSD and decent ethernet adapter so you wouldn't have to add either of those.
And yeah, NewEgg has some decent sales sometimes if you catch them at the right time.
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Old 03-10-2019, 01:58 PM   #5
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The Cyberpower rig they have listed next to it is a better set up for the same money:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-...ct_top?ie=UTF8
This is a prime example of why I hate prebuilts. Ya the internals and all can be decent, minus a couple cheap parts thrown in to keep costs down, but what the **** is that case? Forget all the RGB, where is the ventilation coming from? The small red section on the bottom? Those 3 RGB fans on the front arent doing shit but "looking pretty."
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Old 03-10-2019, 02:19 PM   #6
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This is a prime example of why I hate prebuilts. Ya the internals and all can be decent, minus a couple cheap parts thrown in to keep costs down, but what the **** is that case? Forget all the RGB, where is the ventilation coming from? The small red section on the bottom? Those 3 RGB fans on the front arent doing shit but "looking pretty."
My current case, which I've had for over a year, is very similar - glass on the front and both sides, with fans behind the glass in the front. I've had no overheating issues. Although like you, I was skeptical when I first saw it - seems weird that the fans blow toward a solid enclosure. I don't know why it doesn't overheat, but it doesn't.
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Old 03-10-2019, 02:22 PM   #7
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This is a prime example of why I hate prebuilts. Ya the internals and all can be decent, minus a couple cheap parts thrown in to keep costs down, but what the **** is that case? Forget all the RGB, where is the ventilation coming from? The small red section on the bottom? Those 3 RGB fans on the front arent doing shit but "looking pretty."
It has a rear exhaust fan for flow. And a cpu cooler fan (stock Intel). Not too bad. Yeah, you can get more cooling with a hand build but it should be sufficient.

It was kind of fun looking at prebuilds and trying to find a good one for under $1k but I didn’t look long. Wanna’ see what you can find so we can hook Otter up?
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ehhhhhhhh you can do better

if you wanted to build one you could build a 2600x / 10606gb for that money, with nicer parts all around. I just did it this weekend.
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Old 03-10-2019, 03:12 PM   #9
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Wanna’ see what you can find so we can hook Otter up?
I wouldn't be able to recommend a prebuilt.

I'm sure there is someone near by that could put together whatever parts someone picked out for $100, or maybe even a friend that would do it for free, and you would still be around the same price as a prebuilt but wouldnt have the cheap motherboard/psu combo of a prebuilt.

Plus I don't like the current trend "gaming computers" where everything needs to give you a seizure.
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I don't trust anyone else but me to build my computer. Those companies will use flash to sell their systems; pretty lights, aggressive logos, one or two big name parts while the others are bargain bin sales or worse. I overspend on my components, so every four or five years I build a new one with a Video Card refresh thrown in every two to 3 years. It gets expensive, but how much I use my computer for gaming and school work, it's worth it.
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if you wanted to build one you could build a 2600x / 10606gb for that money, with nicer parts all around. I just did it this weekend.
Dammit HT we’re looking for a prebuilt here!
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20 second search found a better prebuilt for less.

found several others too

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1VK-005B-000E1

here is the upgraded version for 50 bucks more. same company as the OP, just better deals.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Skytech-R...ype=10&veh=aff
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You don't want me picking your computer for you because I have expensive tastes. But dialing back a little I came up with this on PC part picker:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNRDgw

That includes monitor for $1746, so if you already have a monitor then knock off $286 making the machine sub $1500 before tax. Also you might be able to carry other components over from your old computer to your new one, like SSD/HD etc. as long as the parts are beefy enough to handle the newer specs. For example I brought over my old power supply because it was a 1000 watt PSU so I knew it could handle the power needed by the graphics card, processor, mobo etc. I also brought over my last m.2 SSD to add to my 1TB one that I bought to give me a backup drive of sorts.

This build is just something I threw together, there's more work that goes into each individual part to see which is best based on reviews of the product. PC Part Picker is a great website for tinkering around with builds.

I just built my new computer after I got taxes back and I spared very little expense. I would recommend looking up YouTube videos if you're going to compare pre-built vs. do it yourself. YouTube channels like Gamers Nexus/Pauls Hardware, BitWit, OC3D and JayzTwoCents have great content for builders and stick around certain price ranges as well.
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You don't want me picking your computer for you because I have expensive tastes. But dialing back a little I came up with this on PC part picker:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNRDgw

That includes monitor for $1746, so if you already have a monitor then knock off $286 making the machine sub $1500 before tax. Also you might be able to carry other components over from your old computer to your new one, like SSD/HD etc. as long as the parts are beefy enough to handle the newer specs. For example I brought over my old power supply because it was a 1000 watt PSU so I knew it could handle the power needed by the graphics card, processor, mobo etc. I also brought over my last m.2 SSD to add to my 1TB one that I bought to give me a backup drive of sorts.

This build is just something I threw together, there's more work that goes into each individual part to see which is best based on reviews of the product. PC Part Picker is a great website for tinkering around with builds.

I just built my new computer after I got taxes back and I spared very little expense. I would recommend looking up YouTube videos if you're going to compare pre-built vs. do it yourself. YouTube channels like Gamers Nexus/Pauls Hardware, BitWit, OC3D and JayzTwoCents have great content for builders and stick around certain price ranges as well.
Good advice GD. But I’m pretty sure we all know how to build a rig.
(btw another good all-in-one resource for n00b builders is
https://www.wepc.com/)

We’re looking for a good sub-$1K prebuilt rig in this thread though if you happen to see one.
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You don't want me picking your computer for you because I have expensive tastes. But dialing back a little I came up with this on PC part picker:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNRDgw

That includes monitor for $1746, so if you already have a monitor then knock off $286 making the machine sub $1500 before tax. Also you might be able to carry other components over from your old computer to your new one, like SSD/HD etc. as long as the parts are beefy enough to handle the newer specs. For example I brought over my old power supply because it was a 1000 watt PSU so I knew it could handle the power needed by the graphics card, processor, mobo etc. I also brought over my last m.2 SSD to add to my 1TB one that I bought to give me a backup drive of sorts.

This build is just something I threw together, there's more work that goes into each individual part to see which is best based on reviews of the product. PC Part Picker is a great website for tinkering around with builds.

I just built my new computer after I got taxes back and I spared very little expense. I would recommend looking up YouTube videos if you're going to compare pre-built vs. do it yourself. YouTube channels like Gamers Nexus/Pauls Hardware, BitWit, OC3D and JayzTwoCents have great content for builders and stick around certain price ranges as well.
I used to be on the bleeding edge when building a PC but with all the advancements and the warm weather just around the corner I just want to purchase a plug & play. Something that runs reliably with little effort. I can do my own tech support.

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20 second search found a better prebuilt for less.

found several others too

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1VK-005B-000E1

here is the upgraded version for 50 bucks more. same company as the OP, just better deals.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Skytech-R...ype=10&veh=aff
I've had horrible luck with SSD failures and don't want one unless I'm building or buying a LINUX box where the registry isn't integrated into every little operation. Plus 8g of memory isn't enough for 3D CAD.

Thanks for the input. I'm just going to pull the trigger on this one. Seems to be what I'm looking to purchase.
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