Dez Bryant

[Jimmya]

http://seattle.suntimes.com/nfl/7/72...video-released

Don't know if this is true...but its been all over sports radio here in Texas.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Tired of middle to upper middle class men judging these inner city black kids ...

Of course, Joe $60K raised in a 2 parent home given excellent education, of course you don't relate to Dez Bryant, a kid who never had any direction, guidance, education and was given millions of dollars and has the IQ of a 9 year old

I'm sure he did something tragic and disgusting. I don't expect a whole lot, though ... kid never had a chance. Just cuz some of these guys "make it" doesn't mean a thing. This kid has had the deck stacked against him his whole life. It was only a matter of time...

So you are still senseless after hitting your head. Confirmed.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Tired of middle to upper middle class men judging these inner city black kids ...

Of course, Joe $60K raised in a 2 parent home given excellent education, of course you don't relate to Dez Bryant, a kid who never had any direction, guidance, education and was given millions of dollars and has the IQ of a 9 year old

I'm sure he did something tragic and disgusting. I don't expect a whole lot, though ... kid never had a chance. Just cuz some of these guys "make it" doesn't mean a thing. This kid has had the deck stacked against him his whole life. It was only a matter of time...

As someone who came from a ****ed up background similar to Dez's: Bullshit

Complete bullshit.

We live in a country where we're constantly exposed to success and moral high ground. You don't need parents to teach right and wrong anymore. Society does it well enough for anyone who's willing to give a shit.

I've lived with troubled teens and even worked in a Juvenile court school and have seen enough to know better than to buy into that line of "victim" bullshit.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

And yet the fans do care, and the NFL can't take any more press on this, so what your opinion (which I dont' really disagree with) is irrelevant.

I think the Adrian Peterson punishment is grossly disproportionate, but what I think doesn't matter either.

I know, just tired of it.

I mean, Dez can only blame Dez but I'm tired of this billionaire NFL notion that these poverty risen kids should know any better ... because how could they?

They're just scapegoats. And now, when Dez is the new face of MONSTER, we get a whole new media circus of hate for a kid who never had a chance in the world.

Here's an idea, stop letting these kids go to college if they can't qualify academically like everyone else. Make them work to get their shot at the pros rather than enrolling kids who read like fifth graders so you can line your school's pockets by allowing these shenanigans to continue.

Make them go to community college and prove they will work to get into those big time schools so they can get those big time pay days. You take these poor, uneducated kids, help them cheat through fake classes, put them on a pedestal...they graduate to the pros and suddenly we expect them to be wise, educated professionals?

Give me a break.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I know, just tired of it.

I mean, Dez can only blame Dez but I'm tired of this billionaire NFL notion that these poverty risen kids should know any better ... because how could they?

They're just scapegoats. And now, when Dez is the new face of MONSTER, we get a whole new media circus of hate for a kid who never had a chance in the world.

Here's an idea, stop letting these kids go to college if they can't qualify academically like everyone else. Make them work to get their shot at the pros rather than enrolling kids who read like fifth graders so you can line your school's pockets by allowing these shenanigans to continue.

Make them go to community college and prove they will work to get into those big time schools so they can get those big time pay days. You take these poor, uneducated kids, help them cheat through fake classes, put them on a pedestal...they graduate to the pros and suddenly we expect them to be wise, educated professionals?

Give me a break.

You don't need to be a wise, educated professional to know you shouldn't be decking bitches in the mouth, or any other reeruned ass behavior.

It's a ****ing excuse and it irks the **** out of me when people play the "poor, poverty" card.

[BigMeatballDave]

Excuses are like assholes, Hootie...

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You don't need to be a wise, educated professional to know you shouldn't be decking bitches in the mouth, or any other reeruned ass behavior.

It's a ****ing excuse and it irks the **** out of me when people play the "poor, poverty" card.

Yep

[Hootie]

That's fine, I don't even disagree. I was raised to never hit a woman and I never would. It's common sense. I just don't care about watching athletes do it and then getting enraged because they're "celebrities."

**** it. Put a clause in all NFL contracts. Any domestic dispute conviction or one ending in a ridiculous settlement means no more NFL, ever. From now on. No matter what. No excuses.

If they keep hitting women knowing that, then, lol ... see ya.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

This kid has had the deck stacked against him his whole life. It was only a matter of time...

Except that he was gifted athletically 1000x more than the average Joe and can make millions from it.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

That's fine, I don't even disagree. I was raised to never hit a woman and I never would. It's common sense. I just don't care about watching athletes do it and then getting enraged because they're "celebrities."

**** it. Put a clause in all NFL contracts. Any domestic dispute conviction or one ending in a ridiculous settlement means no more NFL, ever. From now on. No matter what. No excuses.

If they keep hitting women knowing that, then, lol ... see ya.

Agreed.

I just hate the "im an asshole loser who repeatedly makes awful choices as an adult cuz #childhood poverty" line.

Drives me nuts.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Except that he was gifted athletically 1000x more than the average Joe and can make millions from it.

What good is money if you're not educated?

[Hootie]

It's not just poverty ... some of these kids just had no chance. It's amazing some of them get out.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Except that he was gifted athletically 1000x more than the average Joe and can make millions from it.

Here's the thing:

I think about it all the time, "why didn't i grow up to make the same mistakes my dad or any of the people i was surrounded by made"?

The only conclusion i can draw is that i had people like teachers, counselors, etc who believed in me; had faith in me and encouraged me. It didn't come from family or my peers.

So when i think of Dez Bryant, someone with his talent, there is NO ****ING WAY he didn't have a group of people who supported him outside of his family. Between coaches, teachers, youth program counselors, etc and anyone else who may have had an interest in him.... there is simply no ****ing way that he didn't get enough support and advice to know better than to make piss-ass choices. That's the society we live in today.

Did he gave a **** enough to care or listen? The support was there. I have little doubt in my mind about that.

Now if someone hears it and chooses to ignore it.....that's a problem with that person....not the hardships his life brought him.

[MTG#10]

Im not giving him or any other troubled black kid growing up with no and/or worthless parents a free pass, but to claim growing up that way is no excuse at all is ridiculous. Just because some of them have extraordinary athletic abilities it doesn't erase everything they've gone through.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Im not giving him or any other troubled black kid growing up with no and/or worthless parents a free pass, but to claim growing up that way is no excuse at all is ridiculous. Just because some of them have extraordinary athletic abilities it doesn't erase everything they've gone through.

It's simply not an excuse. There are far too many outside influences in a young man's life these days to plead ignorance.

Pro Sports are loaded with athletes with checkered childhoods that don't make such piss-ass choices.

You can't sit here and act like he doesn't know any better.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Im not giving him or any other troubled black kid growing up with no and/or worthless parents a free pass, but to claim growing up that way is no excuse at all is ridiculous. Just because some of them have extraordinary athletic abilities it doesn't erase everything they've gone through.

You're going to absolutely give him a free pass once you hear what they're saying now.

Apparently, the 1st graders he urinated on in the video went to this school.