Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 24 of 25 « First 1420212223 24 25
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 AM  
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:00 PM   #346
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby View Post
Oh, is this the part where we pretend bad offensive line play is a new thing for the Steelers? Haley was a downgrade from Bruce Arians.
No , he wasn't.

They were better in nearly every phase, until Roethlisberger got hurt. Ben hasn't been the same since coming back.

This is all about Ben Roethlisberger, period.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:01 PM   #347
bevischief bevischief is offline
....
 
bevischief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Somewhere Kansas
Casino cash: $8659352
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
No , he wasn't.

They were better in nearly every phase, until Roethlisberger got hurt. Ben hasn't been the same since coming back.

This is all about Ben Roethlisberger, period.
He came back too soon.
Posts: 27,731
bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.bevischief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:02 PM   #348
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
Cowher won without a franchise QB, then figured out he couldn't win the big one, got a franchise QB and won the SB.


I'm tired of picking guys or hiring guys hoping that they've "figured out or changed" the way they play.

You hire a guy based on what he has done and that what he has done is what you want him to do.
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:08 PM   #349
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $2214497
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Cowher won without a franchise QB, then figured out he couldn't win the big one, got a franchise QB and won the SB.


I'm tired of picking guys or hiring guys hoping that they've "figured out or changed" the way they play.

You hire a guy based on what he has done and that what he has done is what you want him to do.
Did Cowher do that? Or did the Rooneys? Or did the Steelers find themselves in a position where they drafted in a spot where a QB was a no-brainer? Doesn't change the fact that under Cowher, the Steelers used a gameplan of running to limit what Big Ben would have to do. I am not convinced Cowher's philosophy will have changed. He still strikes me as a guy who wants to play great defense, set up a power running game, and set up a conservative passing game that takes a few gambles a game.
Posts: 47,937
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:10 PM   #350
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
So with a rookie QB, they utilized the run game to limit what a rookie QB would have to do?


You are bashing Cowher for doing similiar things to what you are praising Haley for doing now to big Ben.
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:14 PM   #351
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
Look at J. Fox.

He went to the Sb in Carolina with who at QB? Has he completely changed his philosophy in Den?
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:19 PM   #352
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
Cowher won with Big Ben, playing basically the way the Texans are playing right now. The way the Seahawks, 9ers are winning right now.



I know we all have pinned for one, but getting a franchise QB isn't going to magically win SB's here in KC.

You still need a good defense and a good running game, that can take some pressure of your QB.
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:19 PM   #353
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $2214497
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
So with a rookie QB, they utilized the run game to limit what a rookie QB would have to do?


You are bashing Cowher for doing similiar things to what you are praising Haley for doing now to big Ben.
I'm talking about how over a 15 year coaching career, the only time he had a QB throw over 3,500 yards was in his final season as a coach. A year where Ben ended up with an 18 TD/23 INT ratio. It's not nearly the same as Haley, who was on pace to have his most productive season before injury from a yardage standpoint. Haley didn't create a run first offense, just an offense that relies more on checkdowns than letting Ben freelance on broken plays.
Posts: 47,937
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:20 PM   #354
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
Haley's screens and checkdowns are an extension of his running game, so get outta here with that shit.
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:21 PM   #355
Dayze Dayze is online now
Resident Glue Sniffer
 
Dayze's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Casino cash: $5259358
I thought Schaub was having a good year. admittedly, I haven't looked at his stats though.
just seem to recall them having a good offesne beyond Foster.
__________________
Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial.

RIP & Godspeed:
Saccoppo
Lonewolf Ed
Fire Me Boy
Posts: 37,354
Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:21 PM   #356
ModSocks ModSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ModSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $4364563
I just figured it out.

Polian for GM.

Kelly for HC.

Gaily for OC.

Sign Vick.

Draft Smith.

Print'em.
__________________
It's O'side or No side, baby.
Posts: 64,163
ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:22 PM   #357
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $2214497
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Cowher won with Big Ben, playing basically the way the Texans are playing right now. The way the Seahawks, 9ers are winning right now.



I know we all have pinned for one, but getting a franchise QB isn't going to magically win SB's here in KC.

You still need a good defense and a good running game, that can take some pressure of your QB.
I agree with that. I want both too, but I want a coach who I am fully convinced will want to revolve the team around the QB. Let's not forget that Cowher is the only guy at CBS who was defending Cassel for his poor play. I have not seen enough from Cowher that leads me to believe he wouldn't be satisfied with an exceptional game manager, like we saw with the Jets or the Chiefs or the 49ers.
Posts: 47,937
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:23 PM   #358
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $2214497
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Haley's screens and checkdowns are an extension of his running game, so get outta here with that shit.
It's not shit. Again, Ben was on pace to have his most productive season as a QB (well over 4,000 yards) before injury. Ben was NOT a game manager this season. He was a game manager under Cowher except for 2006.
Posts: 47,937
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:26 PM   #359
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2854064
Cowher showed he could win with and without a franchise QB. He's not going to be the OC or the DC, I want his football knowledge and leadership as the HC.

And with the Chiefs first pick and Clarks demanding, whoever we hire will likely be forced into a QB with the first pick, so we won't likely have to see them try to win without a franchise QB.
Posts: 81,160
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 12:28 PM   #360
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Casino cash: $2463127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dayze View Post
I thought Schaub was having a good year. admittedly, I haven't looked at his stats though.
just seem to recall them having a good offesne beyond Foster.
Not really - he's been turned into more of a "game manager" type QB. The Texans offense has suffered this year because they're not running the ball as well. They REALLY miss Brisiel and Winston on the right side of thier OL and they really have never replaced Vainta Leach at FB. No play-action and no other real threat in the passing game other than Andre Johnson is hurting them. They have become a very conservative offensive team. They settle for field goals instead of going for TD's. They will only go as far as thier defense will take them and it hasn't been the same without Cushing. If they have a strong defense - they can get by with what they have offensively. Once Schaub has to "win it" for them - they're dead.
__________________
"The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
Posts: 34,638
TEX has disabled reputation
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 24 of 25 « First 1420212223 24 25

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:02 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.