Todd Collins

milkman · 01-05-2008, 03:12 PM

I haven't watched the Redskins much this season, but according to commentaors and analysts, he has been playing pretty well, and is a big reason the Skins have advanced to the playoffs.

So the question comes to mind.

Would the Chiefs be any worse off today had they not given up a first round pick for Trent Green and just given Collins the job when Dick came to town?

RustShack · 01-05-2008, 03:13 PM

I think the Chiefs would have been a lot better off if Herm would have kept Al Saunders here.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I think the Chiefs would have been a lot better off if Herm would have kept Al Saunders here.

Saunders wasn't staying here.

It had nothing to do with Herm. He wasn't playing second fiddle for Carl any longer.

**doomy3** · 01-05-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I think the Chiefs would have been a lot better off if Herm would have kept Al Saunders here.

that wasn't an option

**RNR** · 01-05-2008, 03:14 PM

I don't think Collins would have put up the numbers Green did.

milkman · 01-05-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I don't think Collins would have put up the numbers Green did.

I would agree with that.

That, however isn't the question.

Would the Chiefs be any worse off if they hadn't traded for Green?

We suck now.

Would we suck anymore?

**RNR** · 01-05-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I would agree with that.

That, however isn't the question.

Would the Chiefs be any worse off if they hadn't traded for Green?

We suck now.

Would we suck anymore?

20/20 hindsight can be painful, I don't think that 1st rounder was a make or break pick, but who knows.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2008, 03:14 PM

It's tough to say. Collins is having success in an offense he was with for 7 years now.

Would he have had that type of success just learning the system?

I doubt it.

Thig Lyfe · 01-05-2008, 03:18 PM

I think the Chiefs would have been a lot better off if Al Saunders had been promoted to HC.

**doomy3** · 01-05-2008, 03:19 PM

The Redskins are here because of their Defense, BTW

Thig Lyfe · 01-05-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

The Redskins are here because of their Defense, BTW

And also Sean Taylor's spectral powers.

**HemiEd** · 01-05-2008, 03:26 PM

I don't think Collins could have done what Green did as soon. But I said at the time, and got roasted for it a few weeks ago, the mistake was made keeping Huard instead of Collins.

Of course, we know why Herm didn't keep Collins. It fit with his plan of getting rid of all of DVs players and coaches.

Herm's ego is very expensive.

**doomy3** · 01-05-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I said at the time, and got roasted for it a few weeks ago, the mistake was made keeping Huard instead of Collins.

Of course, we know why Herm didn't keep Collins. It fit with his plan of getting rid of all of DVs players and coaches.

Herm's ego is very expensive.

Was Huard not here when Vermeil was?

**HemiEd** · 01-05-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Was Huard not here when Vermeil was?

Yes, but only 1 season as 3rd string IIRC. Herm made the Choice on which backup he was keeping, he chose Huard.

**doomy3** · 01-05-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yes, but only 1 season as 3rd string IIRC. Herm made the Choice on which backup he was keeping, he chose Huard.

So, it wasn't really that he was trying to dump all Vermeil's guys as you say. He just chose one of Vermeil's guys over the other.

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