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Old 03-04-2012, 08:53 PM   Topic Starter
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Cardinal Dolan says they will not yield to Obama

(CNSNews.com) – Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York and president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, sent a letter on Friday to all the Catholic bishops of the United States reasserting the conviction of the Catholic Church that it will not yield to the Obama administration’s command—issued in the form of a Health and Human Services regulation implementing the president’s health-care plan–that Catholics and Catholic institutions must violate the teachings of their faith by purchasing and providing health insurance plans that pay for sterilizations, contraceptives and abortifacients.

“We have made it clear in no uncertain terms to the government that we are not at peace with its invasive attempt to curtail the religious freedom we cherish as Catholics and Americans,” Cardinal Dolan wrote his brother bishops.

“We did not ask for this fight, but we will not run from it,” he said.

“Since January 20, when the final, restrictive HHS Rule was first announced,” Cardinal Dolan wrote, “we have become certain of two things: religious freedom is under attack, and we will not cease our struggle to protect it.”

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:08 PM   #2
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:15 PM   #3
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Y'know, it's relatively easy to divide and conquer Protestants, but it's just politically stupid to pick a fight with the Catholic Church.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:24 PM   #4
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I beg to differ...

The Cardinal may be setting himself up for a real problem if he tries to finally address the hypocrisy of the church position on this and many other issues as it compares to the actual practices of the practicing members of the American flock.... And yeah I am Catholic so I am not attacking an institution I am not familiar with....
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:25 PM   #5
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The Cardinal may be setting himself up for a real problem if he tries to finally address the hypocrisy of the church position on this and many other issues as it compares to the actual practices of the practicing members of the American flock.... And yeah I am Catholic so I am not attacking an institution I am not familiar with....
Perhaps – just perhaps – the problem is with the flock and not the Church.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #6
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Perhaps – just perhaps – the problem is with the flock and not the Church.
The problem is with the govt...
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:31 PM   #7
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The problem is with the govt...
Well, yeah, but I think that Mr. Superbowltrashcan was suggesting that the Catholic Church might be better off following its sheep rather than shepherding them.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:30 PM   #8
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The Church position on this has narrowed severely since Vatican 2. Pretty sure they will be able to withstand any loss of revenue from the backlash though...
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:52 AM   #9
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The Cardinal may be setting himself up for a real problem if he tries to finally address the hypocrisy of the church position on this and many other issues as it compares to the actual practices of the practicing members of the American flock.... And yeah I am Catholic so I am not attacking an institution I am not familiar with....
What problem do you foresee? Do you really think that Catholics are going to turn on the Church because it continues to refuse to offer contraception coverage to employees of it's charitable institutions? If so, why haven't they turned on the Church already?

This isn't about contraception. This is about religious freedom.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:00 PM   #10
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What problem do you foresee? Do you really think that Catholics are going to turn on the Church because it continues to refuse to offer contraception coverage to employees of it's charitable institutions? If so, why haven't they turned on the Church already?

This isn't about contraception. This is about religious freedom.
...and that is the bottom line. Period.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #11
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The Cardinal may be setting himself up for a real problem if he tries to finally address the hypocrisy of the church position on this and many other issues as it compares to the actual practices of the practicing members of the American flock.... And yeah I am Catholic so I am not attacking an institution I am not familiar with....
This is really irrelevant with regard the the official Church's First Amendment rights. They have a right to enforce their dogmas and doctrines.
Everyone knows about Cafeteria Catholics. Would those CCs like the govt stepping on their toes in other areas of the own religious conscience? No. So don't open the door to the govt doing this type of thing.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:37 PM   #12
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Y'know, it's relatively easy to divide and conquer Protestants, but it's just politically stupid to pick a fight with the Catholic Church.
Yeah because Catholics will totally reject Obama over birth control because most Catholics strictly follow the Church's directives on it.
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When Obama demands that Jews and Muslims eat pork maybe people would see a govt overstepping its bounds?
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When Obama demands that Jews and Muslims eat pork maybe people would see a govt overstepping its bounds?
Did he demand that Catholics use birth control?
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