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Old 02-22-2013, 11:34 PM  
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I'm calling it now: EJ Manuel will the #1 pick by the Chiefs
I know this won't be popular, but I think this will be the guy that the Chiefs pick as their franchise QB. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1) I think mentally and in terms of leadership, this guy will knock it out of the park at the combine. This guy knows real adversity. This past year he played ball and kept his head in the game even though his mother was battling cancer. 2) He doesn't fold during big games. He is only the second college QB in history to win four straight bowl games. 3) He played in a pro-style offense while at FSU. 4) He has the measurables to be a truly franchise QB-- he can both pass and run (if needed) giving our O an added dimension we hadn't had in the past. 5) He isn't afraid of competition; he went to the senior bowl and wound up MVP. 6) The guy is tough as nails; he played with a broken leg during the 2011 Champs Sports Bowl Game in a Victory over Notre Dame.

Yeah, he has quite a few negatives, and a lot of you just flat out hate him--but given Dorsey's comments about how impressed he was with Russell Wilson's interview last year--I think Manuel will give a similar impression of his leadership and maturity to coaches this year.

Reid isn't afraid to take a QB that others rate lower than the consensus; McNabb was the 4th rated QB in his class when Andy drafted him.

While at this point I'd still rather have Geno, I'm prepping myself to like Manuel as I think he has a chnace to be the dark horse pick by the Chiefs. (And no, he won't be there in the second round; I think the senior bowl and the combine will really elevate his stock.)
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:10 AM   #61
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There was a 1% difference between Manuel and Smith on deep passes. If you think EJ sucks on the deep stuff, then you have to come to the same conclusion with Smith (who has two potential first round receivers).
Cracks me up when people say , "Well, he had NFL caliber recievers".

Guess what, In the NFL thats what he'll have. NFL caliber recievers.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:17 AM   #62
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I think it's very possible he's the pick at 34.
this, but not #1
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:21 AM   #63
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No ****ing way he's #1, and highly doubtful he goes 1st round.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:23 AM   #64
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Way to call it before the combine buddy!

Really smart move!
you would have thought he would have learned from you not to do that
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:40 AM   #65
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I'd take him in the 3rd.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:49 AM   #66
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I am starting to really like the idea of the Jags taking EJ in the 2nd round.
Not surprised. You obviously don't give a shit about the Jags.

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No clearly you are retarded. Did you see any of the Senior Bowl?
Yes I saw the damn Senior Bowl. Guess what? Everyone only uses the Senior Bowl to evaluate talent and completely throw out all the years of game tape instead. Brilliant take. Screw the Senior Bowl. It did nothing for nobody. It's like at the thought of you guys possibly not getting Geno which I think it's impossible that you won't everyone has gone full retard in here. After all the shit yall have been through yall give up so easily and start to settle. ****ing stupid.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:52 AM   #67
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Not surprised. You obviously don't give a shit about the Jags.


Yes I saw the damn Senior Bowl. Guess what? Everyone only uses the Senior Bowl to evaluate talent and completely throw out all the years of game tape instead. Brilliant take. Screw the Senior Bowl. It did nothing for nobody. It's like at the thought of you guys possibly not getting Geno which I think it's impossible that you won't everyone has gone full retard in here. After all the shit yall have been through yall give up so easily and start to settle. ****ing stupid.

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Old 02-23-2013, 09:58 AM   #68
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I'd rather have Tyler bray. Manuel can't throw accurately or make good decisions. And you guys have got to stop quoting stats to support your qb. College stats are not that important. Teams like Hawaii & Houston would have more top QBs if stats were that important.
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There was a 1% difference between Manuel and Smith on deep passes. If you think EJ sucks on the deep stuff, then you have to come to the same conclusion with Smith (who has two potential first round receivers).
You conveniently left out the number of attempts.

In terms of moving the chains, 25 of 50 attempts over 10 yards is FAR MORE impactful than completing 7 of 10.

I love listening to people that never actually watched Manuel play.

That being said, I could TOTALLY see the Chiefs picking him, especially at #34.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:06 AM   #71
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Cracks me up when people say , "Well, he had NFL caliber recievers".

Guess what, In the NFL thats what he'll have. NFL caliber recievers.
Guess what, those receivers are going to go up against NFL caliber DBs and not Marshall or Baylor.
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There was a 1% difference between Manuel and Smith on deep passes. If you think EJ sucks on the deep stuff, then you have to come to the same conclusion with Smith (who has two potential first round receivers).
Yes, but look at the number of attempts.


EJ Manuel only threw it past ten yards 26% of the time. This ties Barkley for the lowest amount in the last two classes. Was that Jimbo Fisher’s offense or Manuel just deciding to hit the easy passes often? Most likely a combination of both.
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You conveniently left out the number of attempts.

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According to secondroundstats they threw about the same % of passes over 20 yards (as compared to their own total number of passes). In fact, EJ's % was slightly higher.
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College stats are not that important.
They are IF you pile them up against SEC teams especially going against BAMA and LSU.

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His stock is rising. Perhaps more than any other QB, but he won't go #1.
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