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Old 04-05-2017, 10:55 AM  
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Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

2011 Prelude:

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The 2017 season undoubtably begins in shadow of Yordano Ventura’s tragic death in the offseason. David Glass again bucked expectation and fan vitriol to go all in on his budget, and the core, despite the heartstring tugging trades of Davis and Dyson, remains primed for another push to the promised land. Will the Royals make another deep run into October? Or will they conduct the largest deadline sell off in Major League history?

Even with the expectations, predictions and hype spanning back from 2011 - the journey this team embarked on since 2013 was sweeter than anything any of us could have imagined. Even if this team goes on a 2004 styled losing binge this year, all is not lost. As this will push the Royals to conduct a sell off for minor league talent that will reignite the incredible optimism that permeated through this place in 2011. At the end of the day, this team actually did it, they somehow found a way to defy all of the odds that the MLB set against them to take the crown.
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1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

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2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

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3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

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4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

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5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

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Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

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We’re all in again, folks. Buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Old 07-17-2017, 03:25 PM   #3976
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Sell this shit team


They had a 10 game homestsnd vs losing teams to open up the 2H. Already face planted first 2. If they don't win 5/8 left, the team should be sold top to bottom


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Old 07-17-2017, 03:26 PM   #3977
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Royals said to be 'very aggressive' in their pursuit of Lance Lynn.

Eh. Cuthbert's been hurt all season and bad. Dozier's been hurt. The Cardinals don't need pitching unless it's righthanded bullpen help and if the Cards were looking short term well hell, they could just move Lynn to the 'pen.

Pitching salaries are crazy enough that the Cardinals could price-enforce Lynn into a likely sandwich pick this offseason. Offer him 4/$52 and he wouldn't take it, but it would be a starting point in negotiations and could yield him getting over that $50 million threshold (the only way he'd stay below it is if he took less term; 3/$48 or something like that). That being the case, the bare minimum return they should take is the rough value of that sandwich slot (so a fringe 1st round talent). If I'm the Royals I probably don't give that up.

Besides, the Royals SS and 1b cupboard is pretty bare. That's where the Cardinals really need help.

I'm honestly not sure I see a deal lining up here but baseball is weird so who knows?
Strahm straight up is FV but then, I really like Strahm.


The Cards aren't selling despite your protestations. Their FG playoff odds are actually better than the Royals (24% - 22%) so who exactly would be the seller there? The NL is hot dogshit outside 2 excellent teams.


What's Lynn's current value anyway? Pitch FX says his velocity is down 1-2mph and his FB value has gone from elite to good. Given his secondary stuff has always had slightly negative value, it may be fair to ask: did Lynns injury sap his FB veto or location or movement? If so he's JAG at the back of a rotation, Edinson Volquez redux
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:37 PM   #3978
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:38 PM   #3979
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Strahm straight up is FV but then, I really like Strahm.


The Cards aren't selling despite your protestations. Their FG playoff odds are actually better than the Royals (24% - 22%) so who exactly would be the seller there? The NL is hot dogshit outside 2 excellent teams.


What's Lynn's current value anyway? Pitch FX says his velocity is down 1-2mph and his FB value has gone from elite to good. Given his secondary stuff has always had slightly negative value, it may be fair to ask: did Lynns injury sap his FB veto or location or movement? If so he's JAG at the back of a rotation, Edinson Volquez redux
I agree. Lynn is a JAG at the back of a rotation. But the question isn't necessarily what I'd pay for him as much as what the market will bear for him.

That's why I say his value should start at roughly the compensation pick - I think he'll decline the QO and get the money he needs to break that $50 million threshold. As such, that's where any offer the Cardinals should consider needs to start. And if I'm the Royals, I wouldn't give up that much to get him.

As for the 'why', to me it's simple TJ rust. Everybody that comes back from TJ is 'getting to know' their arm again in that 1st year back. It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things unless they're just hot garbage. Lynn isn't so that's a good sign going forward. I suspect he'll be back to where he was prior to the injury by next season.

But 'where he was' is still prone as hell to getting wrecked by lefties because he refuses to challenge them with fastballs at their hands and doesn't have the breaking pitch to beat them away. So he just nibbles till he walks them or feeds them a cockshot.

I was a huge Lynn fan about 3 years ago but he just never got over this LHH problem. That limits him to being a 3rd starter (4th on a very good squad). I'm not sure what value that truly has. Then again, Mike Leake got $80 million so one needn't be good to be expensive anymore.

And the Cards aren't selling because they're delusional. They aren't getting past the Dodgers or the Nats. And that's if they could even survive the D-Backs, Brewers, Rockies or this weird watered down version of the Cubs.

They have no business staying in this. The team isn't good enough.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:07 PM   #3981
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:14 PM   #3982
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I'm sure the Royals haven't soured on Mondesi at all, have they? He seems like a complete non-starter but would Lynn + DeJong get any traction?



DeJong's hit the hell out of the ball and played SS for the Cardinals for the last month. Full disclosure - I don't think that's his true talent level nor do I think he's an actual SS, but he can probably make himself almost league average defensively and even if he never draws walks, he'll always have 20 HR power.



So...maybe a 2-2.5 WAR player at SS? Give or take. And he'd be able to help the Royals right now if that's what they have in mind.



If I'm KC I don't even consider Mondesi as part of a Lynn deal but if I'm the Cardinals, I don't see a way to get a trade made that he's not a part of.

Mondesi is, if anything, more untouchable than he has been previously.

His success at AAA has cemented that.

I wouldn't trade him to headline a package for Jose Quintana or Sonny Gray. So I guess I'm in the same boat as the team.


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I agree. Lynn is a JAG at the back of a rotation. But the question isn't necessarily what I'd pay for him as much as what the market will bear for him.

That's why I say his value should start at roughly the compensation pick - I think he'll decline the QO and get the money he needs to break that $50 million threshold. As such, that's where any offer the Cardinals should consider needs to start. And if I'm the Royals, I wouldn't give up that much to get him.
He'll get 50M so long as he doesn't miss much time the rest of the year. Guys who are proven starters will always get paid. Look how much Brett Anderson has stolen off of one or two sub-Lynn years.


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As for the 'why', to me it's simple TJ rust. Everybody that comes back from TJ is 'getting to know' their arm again in that 1st year back. It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things unless they're just hot garbage. Lynn isn't so that's a good sign going forward. I suspect he'll be back to where he was prior to the injury by next season.
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But 'where he was' is still prone as hell to getting wrecked by lefties because he refuses to challenge them with fastballs at their hands and doesn't have the breaking pitch to beat them away. So he just nibbles till he walks them or feeds them a cockshot.

I was a huge Lynn fan about 3 years ago but he just never got over this LHH problem. That limits him to being a 3rd starter (4th on a very good squad). I'm not sure what value that truly has. Then again, Mike Leake got $80 million so one needn't be good to be expensive anymore.

And the Cards aren't selling because they're delusional. They aren't getting past the Dodgers or the Nats. And that's if they could even survive the D-Backs, Brewers, Rockies or this weird watered down version of the Cubs.

They have no business staying in this. The team isn't good enough.
Pfffft. The 2006 team was shit and they won it all. They had 2 stars and crap. They had teams the prior few years that were good enough so I don't knock 2006. But crazy shit happens in Oct
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