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Old 07-16-2017, 09:33 AM  
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See how Alex Smith performs in the red zone compared to rest of AFC West

It was a breezy, borderline chilly, Sunday afternoon in mid-November last season. The 7-2 Kansas City Chiefs were at home against the five-loss Tampa Bay Buccaneers, rolling with a five-game winning streak that included victories over the New Orleans Saints at home and the Oakland Raiders and Carolina Panthers on the road.

It was also ... confession time ... my first visit to Arrowhead Stadium.

I will say, it was an experience Iíll never forget. The atmosphere, the tailgating, the fans ... it was all amazing. But, at the same time, it was just about as frustrating a game as youíll ever see.

The funny thing is, though, Alex Smith had your typical, average Alex Smith performance. The Chiefs QB threw for 261 yards, had one touchdown and one rushing touchdown, along with one interception. Pretty so-so, but that seems to be then norm for No. 11. Spencer Ware rushed for 69 yards on 17 attempts, a stat line that pretty much was his average performance on the ground in 2016.

I did some digging and found the postgame column of The Kansas City Starís Sam Mellinger. You donít have to read too much to remind yourself of how that game panned out.

What couldíve been another ugly Chiefs win turned into an ugly-as-vomit 19-17 loss to the mediocre Buccaneers at home on Sunday the moment quarterback Alex Smith executed a bad throw, poorly leading to an interception in the end zone when even a field goal wouldíve probably been enough to win.

The biggest frustration, aside from the inability of the offense to score, was the red zone performance by Smith. Most notably, Smith threw a crucial interception from Tampa Bayís six-yard line (the one referenced by Sam above) with KC trailing 12-10 early in the fourth quarter.

I wonít spend too much time dwelling on the Smith interception, but it appeared to be a predetermined read, where Smith failed to notice Chris Conte waiting in the middle of the end zone.

And as a Chiefs fan, you probably feel that this missed throw in the tweet below by Smith is one you see every Sunday.

Click here to see Tigerupyourbutt's lover boy make one of the throws that led to his AFCW ranking:
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/...red-zone-stats

The Chiefs scored in the red zone 46 percent of the time in 2016, which was 26th-best in the league. Thatís about 10 percent worse than Kansas Cityís red zone conversion rate in 2015.

Plus, what really makes the red zone inefficiency by Smith & Co. so frustrating is that the offensive line for the Chiefs did a pretty good job in 2016. According to Pro Football Focus, the Chiefs offensive line allowed the fewest pressures in 2016 (they tied with the Raiders) and Smith saw the lowest percentage of pressures on third down.

For an offense that operates like the Chiefs, scoring in the red zone has to be one of the most important parts of their game. Minus Tyreek Hill running wild throughout the field, there isnít a big-play threat out there. Itís reasonable to contribute the lack of a play maker to Smithís inability or unwillingness to take shots down the field.

So, if you were asked a trivia question on where Smith ranked in red zone passing performance in the AFC West in 2016, youíd be a winner if you answered with ... ďdead last.Ē
2016 AFC West Red Zone QB Stats
Quarterback Passing Completion % Passing Yards TD INT Passer Rating Yards/Attempt Rushing Yards
Derek Carr 44/90 47% 306 19 1 91.9 3.4 -7
Philip Rivers 45/96 47% 333 22 2 86.5 3.5 1
Trevor Siemian 28/55 51% 164 10 1 89 3 5
Alex Smith 29/63 46% 167 11 3 72.7 2.7 51
Statistics via Pro Football Reference

The only real edge that Smith has over the other three quarterbacks actually has nothing to do with his passing game. He has 51 rushing yards; the other three have -6 combined rushing yards. Congratulations.

Trevor Siemian threw for one less touchdown than Smith did in the red zone in 2016 but had eight less pass attempts. Smithís passer rating was 16.3 percentage points worse than the next-best rating, owned by Siemian (89).

The Chiefs are at the point now where no one reasonably expects them to be any better than an average offense so long as Smith is behind center. The AFC West wonít be an easy division to play in in 2017 by any means, and if the Chiefs want to compete for a playoff run, improvement in the red zone should be one of their highest priorities.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:18 PM   #91
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You have uncovered and presented to us the Holy Grail summation of the entire Smith tenure in Kansas City.
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You have uncovered and presented to us the Holy Grail summation of the entire Smith tenure in Kansas City.
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His exact words at that moment, he said to me, were "oh man, this team is cursed!"

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Old 07-16-2017, 09:21 PM   #93
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Which Dane is here: the one that thinks Alex is mediocre, or the one that thinks he's a franchise qb?
As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.
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As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.

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His exact words at that moment, he said to me, were "oh man, this team is cursed!"

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Was that before or after you swallowed his unborn children?
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As a former druggie, I feel we should advise Dane that whatever medicine the doctor has been giving him for about two seasons now, is clearly NOT working.
Former?

Nice try.
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Was that before or after you swallowed his unborn children?
hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.
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hey, YOU're the one obsessed with sucking on dicks. Guess it comes easy for you, as you spend your days workin to get your next fix. Mom would be proud.
Is that what you kids are calling "season tickets" these days?
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With no doubt, you and others will be throwing the same "excuses" forward when Mahomo gets any hint of criticism. ****ing hypocrite.

Then when met with any resistance, the excuse of "well he's just a rookie!" will cascade from your herpe-lips. Guess what asshole? that is just... another.. "excuse"... according to your own rules set forth.

Now suck it.
I highly doubt that.

What makes people's blood boil is watching Alex Smith check down when he doesn't need to. We don't know much about Mahomes. But we know he won't be the king of checkdowns, that's for sure.
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I highly doubt that.

What makes people's blood boil is watching Alex Smith check down when he doesn't need to. We don't know much about Mahomes. But we know he won't be the king of checkdowns, that's for sure.
Why not shoot that boiling blood at Andy Reid? Any intelligent person would... since Andy is the one person responsible for keeping Smith out there.

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Why not shoot that boiling blood at Andy Reid? Any intelligent person would... since Andy is the one person responsible for keeping Smith out there.

I tried that a couple years ago and got flogged, banned from threads, MU'd ,etc... All because I blamed Andy for not forcing Smiths hand by taking away all of Smith's easy dumooffs and outlets.
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I tried that a couple years ago and got flogged, banned from threads, MU'd ,etc... All because I blamed Andy for not forcing Smiths hand by taking away all of Smith's easy dumooffs and outlets.
So you moved on to a different, more appropriate target... all because you were bullied into it?

Wow. What a huge pussy you are then. You had a belief, and had it beaten out of you by a bunch of other impotent, anonymous posters.

Well done. That will be your legacy then. Great job.
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Passing offense plagued with terrible receivers and a line that has only been ranked average once in 4 years.

Remind me where is Kyle Williams, Hemingway, bowe, Hammond and Avery right now?? . This place even bitches about Albert Wilson, constantly. Smith's fault, right?

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Well, given the upgrades at WR and OL the team has acquired throughout Alex's stead here, it would make sense that Alex would do stuff like increase his efficiency numbers or red zone scoring percentage or his overall stats.

What's that? He didn't?

It's still not Alex's fault! It can't be!
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