****Official 2017-2018 Missouri Tigers Basketball Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Back up in your ass with the resurrection. Follow the Cuonzo Martin era here.

Recruiting Commitments:

2017:
Michael Porter Jr., SF, *****, Gatorade National Player of the Year
CJ Roberts, PG, ****
Blake Harris, PG, ***/****
Jeremiah Tilmon, F/C, ****
Kassius Robertson, Grad Transfer
Jontay Porter (possible re-classification from Class of '18), ****

Departures: No one that matters
Returning Players: No one that matters

Overall class ranking: #6 nationally.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

This is by all accounts an awesome start for the turnaround of Mizzou basketball so far, but does it concern anyone else that most of this top tier talent is coming here because we hired someones dad?

"A journey of a 1000 miles..."

If Michael Porter Sr. is the hire that makes us even remotely relevant again and gets 4-star+ kids to use visits to come see us (and seriously, we have some elite facilities), it won't bother me one bit.

They have to get something to get back off the mat and if this is that thing, so be it. None of this happens with out MPJ and with him in the fold, we could've easily accelerated the rebuild by 3-4 years. That's nothing but a good thing.

It's not a finish line - Cuonzo has to capitalize on that momentum. But it's a hell of a good start.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

This is by all accounts an awesome start for the turnaround of Mizzou basketball so far, but does it concern anyone else that most of this top tier talent is coming here because we hired someones dad?

Not at all, if that's what gets the ball rolling that's fine. If this years talent puts 2 kids into the NBA, Mizzou will have a much easier recruiting path next year and in years to follow. If they make some noise in the tournament and get some 1 and dones, it's lights out from there. Kids want to go somewhere that feeds easily into the NBA. If they get that chance at Mizzou, they'll be more than happy to go there.

Not to mention if MPS gets all of his sons to go to Mizzou, shit that's 4 years of 4 star recruits in the bag.

[DJ's left nut]

The only caveat being "unless said recruits father is La'var Ball, who is a monumental prick."

Because as big a fan of Lonzo as I am (kid sees the floor like Nash), his dad simply ensures that he's not worth the effort for a college program. You're just tools in his scheme and you're not going to get the return that you think you will.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The only caveat being "unless said recruits father is La'var Ball, who is a monumental prick."

Because as big a fan of Lonzo as I am (kid sees the floor like Nash), his dad simply ensures that he's not worth the effort for a college program. You're just tools in his scheme and you're not going to get the return that you think you will.

I am honestly shocked that La'var Bell gets any run whatsoever. He's just such an asshole, what he's doing to his kids career is unreal.

[Sassy Squatch]

If we can pull Knox as well that would ease my worries quite a bit. Porter Jr is straight up nepotism, but Knox would mean there was something else, whether it be Martin himself, the facilities, whatever else.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I am honestly shocked that La'var Bell gets any run whatsoever. He's just such an asshole, what he's doing to his kids career is unreal.

You read any of the stuff about his shenanigans with the high school coaches? He's just a complete mother****er.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You read any of the stuff about his shenanigans with the high school coaches? He's just a complete mother****er.

I saw that video of the one son who scored 100 earlier this year. Mother****er didn't cross half court the entire game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

If we can pull Knox as well that would ease my worries quite a bit. Porter Jr is straight up nepotism, but Knox would mean there was something else, whether it be Martin himself, the facilities, whatever else.

You can go to a Final 4 with nothing but CJ Roberts level recruits.

It's not the easiest, most direct path, but those kids with just enough rough edges to their games to need 3-4 years in college are going to be better than any 1 and done by their SR years. That's why NC just won the title - they brought back most of last year's squad and it showed in all those pressure situations in the tourney.

Roberts re-upping is a great sign. That's a guy that had very few ties to this team and had every reason to re-open yet didn't. He and his family loved what they saw here and stayed. If Cuonzo can get a handful of good 4-star recruits every year, he can have this program as a perennial Sweet 16 threat and at that point you're just a few lucky bounces from getting where you want to be (which is all you can ask in college basketball, with its midget 3 point line and whistle-happy officials).

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You can go to a Final 4 with nothing but CJ Roberts level recruits.

It's not the easiest, most direct path, but those kids with just enough rough edges to their games to need 3-4 years in college are going to be better than any 1 and done by their SR years. That's why NC just won the title - they brought back most of last year's squad and it showed in all those pressure situations in the tourney.

Roberts re-upping is a great sign. That's a guy that had very few ties to this team and had every reason to re-open yet didn't. He and his family loved what they saw here and stayed. If Cuonzo can get a handful of good 4-star recruits every year, he can have this program as a perennial Sweet 16 threat and at that point you're just a few lucky bounces from getting where you want to be (which is all you can ask in college basketball, with its midget 3 point line and whistle-happy officials).

I'll take your word for it. I'll be the first to admit I know jack and shit about the intricacies of college basketball and what it would take to become contenders year in and year out. If anything else, it's at least not a complete embarrassment to be a Mizzou basketball fan anymore.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You read any of the stuff about his shenanigans with the high school coaches? He's just a complete mother****er.

No, I haven't which makes his bullshit even more ridiculous. Asking for a billion dollars from Nike for a shoe deal was the icing on the one who sucks the penis cake for me.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

No, I haven't which makes his bullshit even more ridiculous. Asking for a billion dollars from Nike for a shoe deal was the icing on the one who sucks the penis cake for me.

He was overiding the HS coach from the stands and telling the players not to listen to the calls, etc... After the game (a WIN no less, a comeback after the coach changed up defensive schemes over Ball's bitching), he storms into the locker room and bawls the coach out.

Later, he goes on television and tells one of the national guys (maybe Steven A Smith?) that the HS coach is bi-polar and an addict and he's going to have him fired.

Like I said, the guy is just a complete one who sucks the penis.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He was overiding the HS coach from the stands and telling the players not to listen to the calls, etc... After the game (a WIN no less, a comeback after the coach changed up defensive schemes over Ball's bitching), he storms into the locker room and bawls the coach out.

Later, he goes on television and tells one of the national guys (maybe Steven A Smith?) that the HS coach is bi-polar and an addict and he's going to have him fired.

Like I said, the guy is just a complete one who sucks the penis.

Good Lord, that sounds wonderful. I bet ole Stephen A just lapped that shit up like it was cream too.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He was overiding the HS coach from the stands and telling the players not to listen to the calls, etc... After the game (a WIN no less, a comeback after the coach changed up defensive schemes over Ball's bitching), he storms into the locker room and bawls the coach out.

Later, he goes on television and tells one of the national guys (maybe Steven A Smith?) that the HS coach is bi-polar and an addict and he's going to have him fired.

Like I said, the guy is just a complete one who sucks the penis.

Holy shit. Did a bit of reading out of curiosity and **** this guy. Has 2 more sons just waiting for their careers to be ruined as well.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

Good Lord, that sounds wonderful. I bet ole Stephen A just lapped that shit up like it was cream too.

To be fair, Stephen A. called him out pretty heavily.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

To be fair, Stephen A. called him out pretty heavily.

Really, that's surprising to me. Stephen A always seemed to me to take the absolute most contrarian stance he possibly could just for the sake of hot takes.