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Old 09-18-2012, 12:02 AM   Topic Starter
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Why does this team fail to show up?

Is Cassel the root of the problem here?

If this team gets down a couple scores, does this team quit because they know who's playing behind center?

I mean lets face it. Regardless of what the PR dept at 1 Arrowhead Drive tells the players to say in interviews, you can't honestly sit here any believe players like Bowe, Charles, Berry, Hali and DJ think Cassel can lead this team?

These guys have all been around football their entire lives. They see other QB's around the league the how they play on the field in live action on the other sidelines. Do they like Cassel, or do they think he's a nice guy? I'm sure they do. But in this league being a nice guy and hard worker isn't going to cut it. You have to lead by example for anyone to respect you. I don't think players respected Haley because he was an asshole who never playrd the game at a high level. He ****ing played golf and was silver spooned inot the NFL.

Cassel craps his pants on a game by game basis. Players around the league know this. Coaches know this. Are we really that naive to think his own teammates don't think this? Why do you think Bowe held out for so long? Because he thinks our passing game is shit without him. In many ways he's right. If Drew Brees was our QB...someone that can drive an offense downfield and carry a team on his back to where losing Bowe wouldn't result our offense skipping a beat, he'd have less leverage and he probably wouldn't have held out as long knowing that he would be easily replaced and the wheels on the offense would keep turning.

I mean the guy was given a contract that he never earned, and was given by his buddy from New England, meanwhile we let a guy like Carr walk, someone who had worked his ass off and made a name for himself in this league as a 5th round draft choice. I know you can't keep everyone in today's NFL but what does that tell the rest of the locker room? Sigh....I'm done ranting....this is going to be a long terrible depressing week.

I really hate it when the Chiefs lose...especially on Mondays at work. The day just sucks overall. What I hate even more is when they complete get blown out by (what seem to be) inferior teams, and then the Chiefs players turn around and tell reporters at the end of the game "Well we didn't show up today." Well....WHY THE **** NOT?!?! I mean I knew ATL was going to be a loss in the opener with the injuries we had on defense, particularly in the secondary, but ****ing Buffalo, especially after what they did to the Chiefs last season in the home opener? You'd think the players would have a big chip on their shoulder from last season and would want some kind of revenge. Nope...not this team. You could see it on the sidelines and even when they first came out of the locker room. Stone cold faces...deer in the headlights kind if looks. This team has zero mental toughness and once they get down...that's it. You can almost bet that 14-0 will turn into 28-0 before no time because this team gives the **** up too early.

Does that fall on the head coach. I'm sure some of it does to say the least...but is it also because the players think that Cassel is not the man for the job? Shit even as fans we can see this. And while some of us may not be very well versed in the x's and o's of the game, we all know a horrible QB when we see one, and it doesn't take someone who coaches at the NFL level to figure that out.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:03 AM   #2
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I'm going with coaching. We should be much more competitive then this. We really regressed a lot from the 2nd half of last season. The coaches aren't getting them ready to play, there is no effort out there.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:15 AM   #3
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I'm going with coaching. We should be much more competitive then this. We really regressed a lot from the 2nd half of last season. The coaches aren't getting them ready to play, there is no effort out there.
Did you consider the possibility of the D being overrated from last year because of the s*** offenses they faced..hmm..lets see..McNabb, Caleb freaking Haine, Teblow, Rivers' Halloween gift, Kyle Boilerplate, Painter...

I will give you GB, but somebody had to beat them and the timing was perfect for us!!

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:24 AM   #4
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Did you consider the possibility of the D being overrated from last year because of the s*** offenses they faced..hmm..lets see..McNabb, Caleb freaking Haine, Teblow, Rivers' Halloween gift, Kyle Boilerplate, Painter...

I will give you GB, but somebody had to beat them and the timing was perfect for us!!
No.

The personnel on this defense is actually quite good. There is a lot of guys on this roster who have shown flashes and who have played hard.

The base 34 scheme sucks for defending the modern offense in the NFL.

Everyone around here bitched like Kim Kardashian on the rag about the "spread offense" two years ago, but, like I said, it's the wave, and the NFL will be riding it sooner rather than later. The base 34 isn't a good defense to defend against a no huddle spread and the Chiefs are showing why.

Now, at this point, I don't care.

I hope they tank the season, get Geno Smith as their first round draft pick and convince Urban Meyer to come coach the team.

With those two guys, this team can be competitive immediately.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:06 AM   #5
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No.

The personnel on this defense is actually quite good. There is a lot of guys on this roster who have shown flashes and who have played hard.

The base 34 scheme sucks for defending the modern offense in the NFL.

Everyone around here bitched like Kim Kardashian on the rag about the "spread offense" two years ago, but, like I said, it's the wave, and the NFL will be riding it sooner rather than later. The base 34 isn't a good defense to defend against a no huddle spread and the Chiefs are showing why.

Now, at this point, I don't care.

I hope they tank the season, get Geno Smith as their first round draft pick and convince Urban Meyer to come coach the team.

With those two guys, this team can be competitive immediately.

We can't seem to stop anybody, let alone a high flying spread offense.
Week 1 it is the stud WRs and Matt Ryan against a depleted secondary, Week 2 we can't stop the run, so where is the issue again? Every week it is a new problem..I am just tired of this BS!!
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:24 AM   #6
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No.

The personnel on this defense is actually quite good. There is a lot of guys on this roster who have shown flashes and who have played hard.

The base 34 scheme sucks for defending the modern offense in the NFL.

Everyone around here bitched like Kim Kardashian on the rag about the "spread offense" two years ago, but, like I said, it's the wave, and the NFL will be riding it sooner rather than later. The base 34 isn't a good defense to defend against a no huddle spread and the Chiefs are showing why.

Now, at this point, I don't care.

I hope they tank the season, get Geno Smith as their first round draft pick and convince Urban Meyer to come coach the team.

With those two guys, this team can be competitive immediately.
Your confusing 'spread offense' with just spreading the field. NFL offenses have always taken advantage of 4 & 5WR sets to spread the field, ala air raid.

The 'spread offense' uses 3 & 4WR packages to spread the D out in order to create running lanes for the QB/RB read option.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:55 AM   #7
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Your confusing 'spread offense' with just spreading the field. NFL offenses have always taken advantage of 4 & 5WR sets to spread the field, ala air raid.

The 'spread offense' uses 3 & 4WR packages to spread the D out in order to create running lanes for the QB/RB read option.
This, kind of.

The NFL has always used sets to create favorable WR matchups.

The actual spread offense not only uses multi-WR sets but it also SPACES THE LINEMEN to create running lanes for the read option.

People always talk about spread QBs and how they can't translate to the NFL. The dirtier secret is how many spread linemen make it in the NFL. Just take a look at some of the true spread teams and how many linemen they produce.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:05 AM   #8
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:07 AM   #9
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Kasl is the root of the problem.

The D is tired of having to trot back onto the field after mult 3'n'outs. They don't believe that the O is putting for any effort... why the **** should they?

Manning is here and the O-line holds up like Ft. Knox. RG3 is here and they all turn into pulling gods and steamroll defenders to get RG3 some running room. Kasl is here and they are likely purposely letting him get hit in hopes that he breaks something.

/can't blame them.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:10 AM   #10
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Kasl is the root of the problem.

The D is tired of having to trot back onto the field after mult 3'n'outs. They don't believe that the O is putting for any effort... why the **** should they?

Manning is here and the O-line holds up like Ft. Knox. RG3 is here and they all turn into pulling gods and steamroll defenders to get RG3 some running room. Kasl is here and they are likely purposely letting him get hit in hopes that he breaks something.

/can't blame them.
well that doesnt explain the 1st half of the first game, our offense was on point. We were getting first downs at first yesterday too while the defense was getting demolished. It's not time of possession this time.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:11 AM   #11
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well that doesnt explain the 1st half of the first game, our offense was on point. We were getting first downs at first yesterday too while the defense was getting demolished. It's not time of possession this time.
There was still hope at that point.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:08 AM   #12
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Lousy QB. Lousy coaches. Lousy GM.

I was not in favor of promoting Crennel, but goddamn it if I didnt begin to defend him.

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:29 AM   #15
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I posted some info yesterday that I thought more about earlier today.

Is it just a coincidence that Romeo started calling his defense more aggressively once Cassel got hurt last year, or is he actively trying to put Cassel in position to fail by giving up early points and getting him out of his comfort zone?

Last year, he did the same thing while Cassel was out there.

I don't think it's a coincidence that his defense came alive when Cassels hand broke.
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