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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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2018 STL Cardinals Thread

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




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Old 02-17-2018, 10:17 AM   #151
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I understand putting together a huge bucket of relievers and see who still has it, has recovered to prior form or is ascending. And I approve.

Relievers in 2018 are a violate bunch, You never know from year to year what performance you will get from these guys.

I hope that its just a friendly deal to retire a Cardinal. He was a fun guy to watch in 2011. He contributed significantly to that championship. Was more of a down to earth player than most. I liked the guy a lot. But, as a MLB pitcher, he is done.
Izzy, Franklin, and Big Cheeks have as good a shot as these scrubs...
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:33 PM   #152
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Izzy, Franklin, and Big Cheeks have as good a shot as these scrubs...
motte? Yes. Norris? He might have some value if he pitches like the first half of the season. None of these guys are making bank so it’s not a gamble that hampers us.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:36 PM   #153
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I always liked Motte, but does he have anything left? I guess a minor league deal can't hurt.
I liked Motte, but no he has nothing left. Honestly even 2011 Motte would not be as effective now. His velocity then stood out still, it wouldn’t be enough now. Hitters see too many of those now. He would need at least an average secondary pitch that he could throw for a strike. Kimbrel has had staying power as a closer because he can drop that hammer for a strike with consistency. Something Rosie could show at times, but far from consistently.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:44 PM   #154
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I think they know these guys are all crap, but they think they have in house options that are within a year away and they don’t want to pay a reliever or starter for a multi year deal when they think they can fill in next year from depth. I think they still could have gotten a Reed for the pen in that same thought process. They are also banking big on a Waino miracle.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:57 PM   #155
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:44 AM   #156
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I hear Dave Veres and Jeff Fasero are available.
I would take the Hungarian over bringing that turd Motte back.
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:59 AM   #158
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I would take the Hungarian over bringing that turd Motte back.
Motte ain’t making this team.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:05 AM   #159
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Carp already having back issues. So that’s nice
bigger issue is him not batting leadoff. He has some mental block about not batting lead off. We lost games because they dropped him in the lineup. He goes back to leadoff and he’s back to his old self.

Maybe he’s over that mental thing now?
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They should have traded him at the deadline last year anyway but yeah he’s a headcase
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:18 PM   #162
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They should have traded him at the deadline last year anyway but yeah he’s a headcase
looks like the Cards are hoping Martinez can at least be a functional MLB player for the times Carp is out.
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Flaherty looked really good today.

Hicks is going to be our closer in 2018. His fastball/slider will play well right now at the MLB level. Excellent movement on both pitches.
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Flaherty looked really good today.

Hicks is going to be our closer in 2018. His fastball/slider will play well right now at the MLB level. Excellent movement on both pitches.
He's too good of a prospect to relegate to the bullpen.
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He's too good of a prospect to relegate to the bullpen.
Its the first time I've ever saw his pitch. I know its spring training. But, facing Miami's low quality hitters was irrelevant to the movement on his pitches.

I was impressed with the movement on his fastball, that thing jumps on the hitter. I dont know how hitters are going to square it up. His slider looked like the fastball down the middle and it ends up off the plate.

Waino, Martinez both started out in the bullpen and then moved on to starting. Why cant he?
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