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Old 05-15-2018, 11:01 AM  
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Why are so many national writers so high on the Chargers?

Flavor of the off-season or are the Chargers a legit Super Bowl contender.

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Old 05-17-2018, 11:18 AM   #136
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The LA Chargers experiment has been a massive, humiliating failure so far. My guess is that the league is probably telling its media partners to hype them up all offseason to try to generate interest in the team.
On paper they're the most talented, complete team in the division. Still tho...Chargers.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:56 PM   #137
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On paper they're the most talented, complete team in the division. Still tho...Chargers.
Yeah, the problem is that you could argue that's been the case for years now. They have all the talent in the world but can never do anything with it.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:20 PM   #138
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On paper they're the most talented, complete team in the division. Still tho...Chargers.
Tell me how they are more talented than the Chiefs. Seriously.

It was not even a year ago that the Chiefs were considered to have the best top to bottom roster in the league by many analysts and now it seems like some think it has all disappeared.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:52 PM   #139
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All the Chargers to the Superbowl talk will die down after week one when the Chiefs kick their asses again.

Rivers will be the first QB Mahomes will send off to retirement.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:08 PM   #140
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Tell me how they are more talented than the Chiefs. Seriously.

It was not even a year ago that the Chiefs were considered to have the best top to bottom roster in the league by many analysts and now it seems like some think it has all disappeared.
On paper at least, the Chargers are better than the Chiefs on defense without question. The Chiefs offense is better, but that's assuming Mahomes doesn't suck which, let's face it, isn't a given.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:17 PM   #141
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On paper at least, the Chargers are better than the Chiefs on defense without question. The Chiefs offense is better, but that's assuming Mahomes doesn't suck which, let's face it, isn't a given.
The Chargers 's defense on paper is barely better than the Chiefs ' going into next season if even it is better. As I have said before, I like the Chiefs front seven better but the Chargers have a better secondary.

The Chargers defense seems to be slightly overrated and the Chiefs defense slightly underrated. I see both as top 15 units with a chance at the top 10.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:27 PM   #142
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The Chargers 's defense on paper is barely better than the Chiefs ' going into next season if even it is better. As I have said before, I like the Chiefs front seven better but the Chargers have a better secondary.

The Chargers defense seems to be slightly overrated and the Chiefs defense slightly underrated. I see both as top 15 units with a chance at the top 10.
Well, one of these teams had a top 15 unit last season....the other didn't.

They're better at corner, and safety is a toss up. Sure, normally Eric Berry would be considered the better player over a rookie, but we don't know what Eric Berry has left or how good Derwin James is either. I'd call it a wash until proven otherwise.

For pass rushers they have Bosa and Ingram, which are a better combo than Houston/Ford.

At NT, we have a relative unknown. They have Brandon Mebane who produced well for them last season.

Fact is, one of these defenses is loaded with young talent, the other has aging stars and 50/50 upside players.

That Chargers D is in its prime for now and the immediate future. They're gonna be talented D for the next 2-3 years at least. Kinda like the Chiefs before DJ, Hali and Houston started breaking down.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:35 PM   #143
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Well, one of these teams had a top 15 unit last season....the other didn't.

They're better at corner, and safety is a toss up. Sure, normally Eric Berry would be considered the better player over a rookie, but we don't know what Eric Berry has left or how good Derwin James is either. I'd call it a wash until proven otherwise.

For pass rushers they have Bosa and Ingram, which are a better combo than Houston/Ford.

At NT, we have a relative unknown. They have Brandon Mebane who produced well for them last season.

Fact is, one of these defenses is loaded with young talent, the other has aging stars and 50/50 upside players.

That Chargers D is in its prime for now and the immediate future. They're gonna be talented D for the next 2-3 years at least. Kinda like the Chiefs before DJ, Hali and Houston started breaking down.
LOL. Are you really talking about the same Brandon Mebane who was rated 43.1 by PFF last year (#119 DL), the NT who spearheaded the 31st rushing defense last year and 33 years old guy?

Yeah, I disagree with your take. To say that Berry and James, a guy who has not played a down in this league, is a wash until proven otherwise seems ridiculous to me but oh well.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:11 PM   #144
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LOL. Are you really talking about the same Brandon Mebane who was rated 43.1 by PFF last year (#119 DL), the NT who spearheaded the 31st rushing defense last year and 33 years old guy?

Yeah, I disagree with your take. To say that Berry and James, a guy who has not played a down in this league, is a wash until proven otherwise seems ridiculous to me but oh well.
Berry is my favorite Chief of all time. But at 30 years old, with a torn ACL, torn Achilles and ****ing cancer, yeah there's going to be concerns about him being the same player until proven otherwise.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:57 PM   #145
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What about the head coach? Is he a Marty-like or a Norv-clone?
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:35 PM   #146
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What about the head coach? Is he a Marty-like or a Norv-clone?
Seems to be a Norm clone. At least Marty had them in the playoffs. Norf and Lynn seem to share the trait of underachieving teams.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:27 PM   #147
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I think it has to do with being in LA where there is medical marijuana. They're not really "high on the Chargers", they're just high.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:54 PM   #148
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The Chargers have been good on paper for ages. Every year there is some sort of freaky thing that ****s up their season.
- Overall Injuries
- A ton of injuries to 2 or more specific position groups, (playing 5th & 6th stringers)
- Horrific special teams (most blocked punts one year, a bunch of missed FGs last year)
- losing 5 or 6 games in a season by less than 3 points
They're a misery to root for. It's always something. It's kinda like being a Chiefs fan without the SB, (which they lost to a salary cap cheating 49ers team in the 90's).
I don't like the National Football League anymore and consider myself as a follower of the Chargers in passing.
I think most of you've nailed it. The Chargers are getting national media love because of the long time good roster and especially because of the new media market.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams need to beat both the Chargers and the refs to win any games in LA this year. We'll see...
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The Chargers have been good on paper for ages. Every year there is some sort of freaky thing that ****s up their season.
- Overall Injuries
- A ton of injuries to 2 or more specific position groups, (playing 5th & 6th stringers)
- Horrific special teams (most blocked punts one year, a bunch of missed FGs last year)
- losing 5 or 6 games in a season by less than 3 points
They're a misery to root for. It's always something. It's kinda like being a Chiefs fan without the SB, (which they lost to a salary cap cheating 49ers team in the 90's).
I don't like the National Football League anymore and consider myself as a follower of the Chargers in passing.
I think most of you've nailed it. The Chargers are getting national media love because of the long time good roster and especially because of the new media market.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams need to beat both the Chargers and the refs to win any games in LA this year. We'll see...
Are you still rooting for them Gadzooks?
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:26 PM   #150
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Are you still rooting for them Gadzooks?
Yeah, I'll always root for the Chargers to win, I just don't like what the NFL product has become over the past 25 years, (shit, I'm old).
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