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Old 05-15-2018, 11:01 AM  
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Why are so many national writers so high on the Chargers?

Flavor of the off-season or are the Chargers a legit Super Bowl contender.

Let's discuss in here.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:19 PM   #46
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After Carr's injury last year Rivers is the only proven QB in the division.
Proven that he's not clutch....

In a game in which the Chargers were hot and the Chiefs were reeling, with playoff implications on the line, Rivers came in and threw 3 ghastly interceptions to basically end the Chargers season.

Time after time Rivers has proven to be one of the least clutch QB's in today's NFL. Hell, maybe ever.

Remember the Halloween goal line fumble? the list goes on and on.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:23 PM   #47
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:26 PM   #48
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They won 6 of their last 7 at the end of last season. They have a QB that is proven. They have a good defense. They are returning most of their players and the entire coaching staff. So little turnover creates more continuity. They had a good draft too.
The Chiefs have a new unproven OC and QB and our D is maybe middle of the road.
The Donkos have a QB that has had one good year and a coaching staff that is mediocre at best.
The Faiders have a new HC that has been away from the game for a while and has signed a bunch of aged veterans that are done and likely wont make it through the season.


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Old 05-15-2018, 01:33 PM   #49
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They are now in a major media market, so the media is hyping them
There it is.

If the Chargers and the Rams both have some success, like they should, the NFL splooge will engulf the entire planet.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:41 PM   #50
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Honestly the Chargers have probably done the best job in the draft (AFCW) over the last 3 years.

They have very few weak areas...
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:45 PM   #51
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Proven that he's not clutch....

In a game in which the Chargers were hot and the Chiefs were reeling, with playoff implications on the line, Rivers came in and threw 3 ghastly interceptions to basically end the Chargers season.

Time after time Rivers has proven to be one of the least clutch QB's in today's NFL. Hell, maybe ever.

Remember the Halloween goal line fumble? the list goes on and on.
At the very least Rivers is the most fun meltdown in the league!
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:47 PM   #52
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At the very least Rivers is the most fun meltdown in the league!
Meltdown sounds about right. People love/hate him because he's emotional on the field. Problem is, that emotion lends itself to erratic play when the pressure gets high.

The 3 interceptions he threw last season against KC were the type of throws you'd be mad at a rookie making. That was essentially a playoff game for the Chargers. And he melted down completely.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:48 PM   #53
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Honestly the Chargers have probably done the best job in the draft (AFCW) over the last 3 years.

They have very few weak areas...
Again, the disrespect to John Dorsey.

The Chiefs have drafted better than the Chargers over the last 3 years and this couldn't even be a discussion at all if not for their #3rd overall pick Joey Bosa.

Here's a list of notable players drafted by the Chiefs over the last 3 years:

- Marcus Peters
- Mitch Morse
- Chris Conley
- Steven Nelson
- Chris Jones
- Demarcus Robinson
- Tyreek Hill
- Patrick Mahomes
- Kareem Hunt

The Chiefs as we know have not had any high pick lately.

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Old 05-15-2018, 01:49 PM   #54
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Again, the disrespect to John Dorsey.

The Chiefs have drafted better than the Chargers over the last 3 years and this couldn't even be a discussion at all if not for their #3rd overall pick Joey Bosa.

The Chiefs as we know have not had any high pick lately.
And then having a Derwin James fall right into their lap. "Oh here's our biggest need and probably the best player at his position".

And Melvin Gordon still sucks. IDC what anyone says. Dude has a career avg of 3.9ypc.
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It's interesting to me that all the talk was about how the Chiefs couldn't win anything of note with Alex and the others in the division were better, yet now that they've moved away from alex he's actually used as an excuse as to why they'll under achieve.

so many things wrong with such a short post


if you actually knew anything about your own team , you would know that 'moving away from alex' is much lower on the totem pole of reasons we wont win as many games next year.....than say...blowing up the defense.....


also, i dont buy the argument anyway that you stick with a middling QB to avoid some inevitable growing pains of what is essentially a 1st year starter...


of course mahomes will make some mistakes that alex wouldnt have...this year....but his future ceiling is why we got him...not to win 9 or 10 games instead of 8 and fizzle out in the playoffs again...and furthermore thats NOT under achieving..thats kind of a given with a guy who has played 1 NFL game that was essentially meaningless.


and by the way we never won anything 'of note' with alex nor would we ever have...but we might with mahomes and that IS why we got him



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Again, the disrespect to John Dorsey.
Absolutely.

John Dorsey did not have a lot of success with early round picks. Look at where the talent on this team came from.

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I'll say this. The Chargers front 7 is either overrated or people just don't realize that it is not so strong. Obviously, they have great players in Bosa and Ingram but for the rest, they are not even in the same planet as teams like Minnesota, the Rams, Jacksonville, etc.

I like the Chiefs front 7 better than the Chargers', going into next season.

Plus, Liuget is suspended for 4 games. I am really not sure that defense will be as good as some say. Their secondary is very good though, sure.
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so many things wrong with such a short post


if you actually knew anything about your own team , you would know that 'moving away from alex' is much lower on the totem pole of reasons we wont win as many games next year.....than say...blowing up the defense.....


also, i dont buy the argument anyway that you stick with a middling QB to avoid some inevitable growing pains of what is essentially a 1st year starter...


of course mahomes will make some mistakes that alex wouldnt have...this year....but his future ceiling is why we got him...not to win 9 or 10 games instead of 8 and fizzle out in the playoffs again...and furthermore thats NOT under achieving..thats kind of a given with a guy who has played 1 NFL game that was essentially meaningless.


and by the way we never won anything 'of note' with alex nor would we ever have...but we might with mahomes and that IS why we got him



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9th all time is not HoF type numbers. HoF numbers are generally record breaking type numbers at their time.
All the QBs in the top 10 in passing yards are, or will be, in the HOF. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

All the QBs in the top 10 in passing TDs are, or will be, in the HOF. Rivers is 6th. (Unless Rivers is the only outlier)

I'm not saying Rivers is a lock, but to say it's not even borderline seems a bit biased.
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