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Old 10-25-2012, 06:02 AM  
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ZMA is the shit

Does anyone else here take it? Its Zinc, Magnesium, and B6. I take it right before bed and I get the best sleep ever. Hell, I've even had control of my dreams.

Waking up is super easy and overall I feel more like a man. Check it out if you.haven't already.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:31 AM   #16
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It was recommended to me for muscle recovery (by way of better sleep at night). Nearly every review of it talks about awesome sleep. Check it out.
don't think so, thanks.
my sleep is ****ed up enough w/dreams, walking and talking. if i take something, i want it to knock me out. no dreams at all(that i can remember).
it just interests me when i hear of people talking about their dreams.

like sbg said, the mind is a powerful entity.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:33 AM   #17
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Can you sleep less, or do you still have to sleep the same number of hours?
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:33 AM   #18
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If you think and believe something is going to make you sleep better it's going to make you sleep better.
Not really.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:51 AM   #19
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what do you mean, "control of my dreams"?
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:02 AM   #20
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Can you sleep less, or do you still have to sleep the same number of hours?
People claim that is the case. Not for me. I tried getting 5 hours only on the ZMA and I was pretty dead the next morning. It doesn't help you fall asleep either, just gives you a deeper sleep. As far as it being a placebo or hoax, I read a study that it has minimal effect on men's testosterone levels, which it is sometimes marketed for. However, a simple Google search should pretty much put away any doubts that one has about its positive effects on sleep.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:09 AM   #21
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Sleep is overrated for recovery. Food quantity/quality is much more important. I don't think I've had more than 5hr sleep/night since my daughter was born 9 months ago, and I still hit PR's. Shit I had 2 hours sleep last week and drove upstate with a buddy for a meet and still hit a 1200 total.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:14 AM   #22
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A few days ago when I woke up, I remembered my dream completely. I felt like I had control over what I did in the dream. Last night I decided to test it and I told myself I'm going to dream about trains. It sorta worked because I ended up riding a train from Philly to LA in my dream. I don't know. Its weird. I remember so much detail from my dreams since I've started taking it. Very vivid stuff.
Have you reached level 4 yet? What did you use as your kick to wake up?
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:26 AM   #23
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ZMA really works, and has been proven to. It's not placebo.

It's not so much that it makes you sleepy, but it relaxes your mind which allow you to fall asleep easier.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 AM   #24
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Have you reached level 4 yet? What did you use as your kick to wake up?
No joke I woke up freaking out because I was under arrest, was dehydrated, and the cop was making me drink milk. I don't consume sugars so it freaked me out.

I woke up and my mouth was super dry.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 AM   #25
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 AM   #26
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ZMA really works, and has been proven to. It's not placebo.

It's not so much that it makes you sleepy, but it relaxes your mind which allow you to fall asleep easier.
...if you are deficient in zinc or magnesium
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:31 AM   #27
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:34 AM   #28
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BTW buck...I haven't seen many posts from you lately? What happened?
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:34 AM   #29
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Does anyone else here take it? Its Zinc, Magnesium, and B6. I take it right before bed and I get the best sleep ever. Hell, I've even had control of my dreams.

Waking up is super easy and overall I feel more like a man. Check it out if you.haven't already.
I'm not taking anything where the creators can't spell the acronym of their own product correctly.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:05 AM   #30
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ZMA really works, and has been proven to. It's not placebo.

It's not so much that it makes you sleepy, but it relaxes your mind which allow you to fall asleep easier.
Not true, I just looked and there are exactly ZERO studies say ZMA has any effect on anything, and there are well-designed double blind studies showing it has zero effect on testosterone. So the feeling more "manly" is pure placebo. Sleep evidence is all word of mouth (anecdotal). No studies have been done as far as I see pertaining to sleep benefits.
One study had "evidence" that it increased testosterone, but that study was done by ZMA creator, Victor Conte of BALCO infamy. The study has been discredited and has never been duplicated.
But the placebo effect is often just as real for those who feel it. If you believe it's giving you better sleep, then enjoy. Only thing getting hurt is your wallet.
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