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shaneo69 · 04-26-2006, 09:01 AM

GRETZ: DRAFT WEEK - The Chiefs & Carl in the 1st Round
Apr 26, 2006, 5:13:18 AM by Bob Gretz

Punching around the sports talk radio world the other day, back-to-back callers made the same point during a discussion about the NFL Draft: the Chiefs are lousy drafters, especially in the first round.

It’s a common refrain, but it lacks legs to stand on. It’s one of the biggest misconceptions surrounding the Carl Peterson Era at Arrowhead Stadium.

When it comes to first round picks, the Chiefs under Peterson have had their stinkers, the biggest being OT Trezelle Jenkins in 1995. He shouldn’t have been a first-day choice, let alone a first rounder. LB Percy Snow (1990) and WR Sylvester Morris (1999) didn’t leave much of a mark either, but injuries were a big factor in both cases there (Snow with the ankle he broke at training camp in a moped accident and Morris with multiple torn knee ligament.)

But over 17 drafts, Peterson has been right far, far more than he’s been wrong when it comes to the first round.

Take a look at the chart below, chronicling the first-round draft choices of all four teams in the AFC West from 1989 through last season. Pause a minute and look at those names and the number of Pro Bowlers that were produced in the first round. Go through the names and rejoin me at the bottom of the chart.

Only Denver has won more games and more division titles in the last 17 years than the Chiefs. They also won two Super Bowls, something the Chiefs have gotten close to only once, in 1993 with an appearance in the AFC Championship Game.

The Chiefs have ended each of the last 17 seasons in disappointment. But it was seldom because of a failure in the first round of the draft. Peterson first round picks have made 22 appearances in the Pro Bowl from five different players, with three on defense and two on offense. That’s five out of 14 first round picks.

Only Denver comes close to that with 18 Pro Bowls from five different players out of 14 first round picks.

Talk about bad drafting in the first round … that would be Oakland and San Diego. The Raiders have had 19 first round picks and produced just eight Pro Bowl appearances from two players. San Diego has had a dozen first round choices and produced 15 Pro Bowlers, but 12 of those came from one man: LB Junior Seau. The others were by RB LaDainian Tomlinson and LB Shawne Merriman.

No Carl Peterson hasn’t been perfect in the first round. But overall, he’s done a pretty darn good job with his first round selections, and certainly better than anybody else in the division.

Take a look at the names above and answer this question: who would you rather have making your first-round pick in the AFC West?

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/04...the_1st_round/

Mr. Laz · 04-26-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly.

Why go to KCChiefs.com and read Rufus Dawes or Gretz when you can come here and read their mirror image?

and why do you come here when Chiefs fans are all that you abhor?

**Lzen** · 04-26-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Gretz lied, people died.

Damn. Beat me to it.

**MahiMike** · 04-26-2006, 02:10 PM

Gretz is the definition of 'asskisser'. Sure am glad Whitlock is around to keep 'em somewhat honest.

htismaqe · 04-26-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

and why do you come here when Chiefs fans are all that you abhor?

I don't abhor Chief fans.

I have a problem with HYPOCRITES.

04-26-2006, 09:01 AM
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	Gretz lies while trying to prove Carl's genious... GRETZ: DRAFT WEEK - The Chiefs & Carl in the 1st Round Apr 26, 2006, 5:13:18 AM by Bob Gretz Punching around the sports talk radio world the other day, back-to-back callers made the same point during a discussion about the NFL Draft: the Chiefs are lousy drafters, especially in the first round. It’s a common refrain, but it lacks legs to stand on. It’s one of the biggest misconceptions surrounding the Carl Peterson Era at Arrowhead Stadium. When it comes to first round picks, the Chiefs under Peterson have had their stinkers, the biggest being OT Trezelle Jenkins in 1995. He shouldn’t have been a first-day choice, let alone a first rounder. LB Percy Snow (1990) and WR Sylvester Morris (1999) didn’t leave much of a mark either, but injuries were a big factor in both cases there (Snow with the ankle he broke at training camp in a moped accident and Morris with multiple torn knee ligament.) But over 17 drafts, Peterson has been right far, far more than he’s been wrong when it comes to the first round. Take a look at the chart below, chronicling the first-round draft choices of all four teams in the AFC West from 1989 through last season. Pause a minute and look at those names and the number of Pro Bowlers that were produced in the first round. Go through the names and rejoin me at the bottom of the chart. Only Denver has won more games and more division titles in the last 17 years than the Chiefs. They also won two Super Bowls, something the Chiefs have gotten close to only once, in 1993 with an appearance in the AFC Championship Game. The Chiefs have ended each of the last 17 seasons in disappointment. But it was seldom because of a failure in the first round of the draft. Peterson first round picks have made 22 appearances in the Pro Bowl from five different players, with three on defense and two on offense. That’s five out of 14 first round picks. Only Denver comes close to that with 18 Pro Bowls from five different players out of 14 first round picks. Talk about bad drafting in the first round … that would be Oakland and San Diego. The Raiders have had 19 first round picks and produced just eight Pro Bowl appearances from two players. San Diego has had a dozen first round choices and produced 15 Pro Bowlers, but 12 of those came from one man: LB Junior Seau. The others were by RB LaDainian Tomlinson and LB Shawne Merriman. No Carl Peterson hasn’t been perfect in the first round. But overall, he’s done a pretty darn good job with his first round selections, and certainly better than anybody else in the division. Take a look at the names above and answer this question: who would you rather have making your first-round pick in the AFC West? http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/04...the_1st_round/
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