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Old 11-10-2018, 07:30 PM  
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LeíVeon Bell not expected to report by deadline

Dude is going to sit out the entire season

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Old 11-10-2018, 11:01 PM   #61
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In what other industry does the employee turn down a 5 year, $70 million contract and refuse to work for one year for $14+ million? It was a very good offer for his position. But he didn't want his position money, he wanted receiver money. Screw him. The billionaires we're being more than fair. He's just being a greedy prick. I hope that he never earns half of the money he turned down.

You're way too emotional about some one else's paycheck that you receive zero dollars from.
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:28 PM   #62
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:30 PM   #63
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In what other industry does the employee turn down a 5 year, $70 million contract and refuse to work for one year for $14+ million? It was a very good offer for his position. But he didn't want his position money, he wanted receiver money. Screw him. The billionaires we're being more than fair. He's just being a greedy prick. I hope that he never earns half of the money he turned down.
He's already been franchised once. This was his 2nd year being franchised. He's already had to risk his long term deal last year, it's shitty to make him risk it again especially in a position like RB.

How is wanting a long term deal over another 1 year deal being greedy?
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:33 PM   #64
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He's got a point.

There are several outcomes of this situation. Bell is going to get paid a shit ton of money in every one of them.

He's not an idiot or a "greedy prick" for sitting this season.
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:36 PM   #65
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He's got a point.

There are several outcomes of this situation. Bell is going to get paid a shit ton of money in every one of them.

He's not an idiot or a "greedy prick" for sitting this season.
Dudes can barely walk after 50 and some even kill themselves because of how ****ed their heads are after football and they call someone greedy for trying to maximize their earning potential lol
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:43 PM   #66
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Old 11-11-2018, 01:09 AM   #67
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He's greedy for wanting a long term deal over playing on a 2nd franchise tag?


I swear, there's no other industry other than sports where people will openly side with billionaires ****ing over their employees
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Eh. It doesnít sit right with me. Heís playing under the CBA that his union (that he is a part of) negotiated and heís trying to buck the system. Thatís pretty douchey. Rules may not be fair but thatís the game youíre in. I personally believe 3.50 corn is bullshit but Iím not trying to buck the system. Thatís just the game Iím in.

Heís also trying to get OBJ money. Also douchey because he isnít worth that.

Is douchey a crime or even something we should be concerned with? No other than some of the knuckleheads on our time might get some bright idea.

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He can tear an Achilles after he signs a long term deal and he only gets whatís guaranteed in his contract. He had a guaranteed 17 million this year (I think). He will never recoup that money. He should have signed a reasonable contract with Pittsburgh with as much guaranteed money his agent could negotiate.

He obviously never took economics at Michigan State and learned about the time value of money.
Time value of money is finance yo. Economics is supply and demand, which he also doesnít understand even a little bit trying to get OBJ money.
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Old 11-11-2018, 01:18 AM   #68
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Eh. It doesnít sit right with me. Heís playing under the CBA that his union (that he is a part of) negotiated and heís trying to buck the system. Thatís pretty douchey. Rules may not be fair but thatís the game youíre in. I personally believe 3.50 corn is bullshit but Iím not trying to buck the system. Thatís just the game Iím in.

Heís also trying to get OBJ money. Also douchey because he isnít worth that.

Is douchey a crime or even something we should be concerned with? No other than some of the knuckleheads on our time might get some bright idea.



Time value of money is finance yo. Economics is supply and demand, which he also doesnít understand even a little bit trying to get OBJ money.
Holding out is part of the system. He's not bucking anything. He's not under contract right now so he's free to do what he's doing. This is what happens when you franchise a player, give him 400+ touches and then franchise him again. This is the only power the players have over teams, so the union should and is okay with them using it.
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Old 11-11-2018, 01:40 AM   #69
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I would like to see the rule changed so that you can't use the franchise tag on a player a second time.

Given how short RBs careers tend to be, I think RBs should have shorter rookie contracts.
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Old 11-11-2018, 01:56 AM   #70
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Holding out is part of the system. He's not bucking anything. He's not under contract right now so he's free to do what he's doing. This is what happens when you franchise a player, give him 400+ touches and then franchise him again. This is the only power the players have over teams, so the union should and is okay with them using it.
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I donít really give a **** either way and anything thatís bad for the Steelers makes me smile. Accordingly, Iím not going to die on this hill.

Youíre right. Holding out is the only power the individual player has over the team. Doesnít mean itís not douchey and guys that let that sway their judgement of said player are off base.

There is an argument to be made that what he is doing goes outside of the legislative intent of the CBA. Iíd doubt the union had this in mind when they agreed to it. Moreover, if they truly care about the players interest (not sure they do) dudes holding out for money isnít working so well. Kaepernick is a prime example, but also dez (I might be wrong but I think he was offered contracts that he thought were too low and ended up on the street at final cutdown).

And letís be real here, in practical this probably lowers some of the offers heís going to get which is bad for the union. Heís going to get paid but heís also probably got some bids pulled by being a douche.
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Time value of money is finance yo. Economics is supply and demand, which he also doesnít understand even a little bit trying to get OBJ money.
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Dudes can barely walk after 50 and some even kill themselves because of how ****ed their heads are after football and they call someone greedy for trying to maximize their earning potential lol
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You make a good point but how much money does Bell need? It's not like the guy would barely be getting by with the contract the Steelers offered him. Would the extra millions he would make with this contract make that big of a difference in his life? More Lambos or another mansion? Allow him to retire earlier to avoid those big hits that put him at risk for what you mentioned?

NFL players are well compensated for the risks they knowingly take. The contract Bell would have signed would have given him more than enough money to afford basically anything he wants and set his family up for decades.

I will say it is perplexing that they make less than MLB and NBA players despite the sport being Americas most popular and way more physical sport but they are still paid very well.

IMO people are missing an important point with this situation. I believe this goes beyond the contract I think he hates being a Steeler. I don't think he likes playing there or with his teammates for whatever reason. That's why this is going the way it is. If it was just about money he'd been back by now. He made his point missing anymore time won't give him a better contract. At this point he is just giving the Steelers the middle finger out of hate.

Either way the situation was handled poorly by both sides. The Steelers offense is doing fine wout him but Steelers should have seen this coming and got rid of the guy before this happened instead of constantly using the franchise tag.

If a player isn't happy playing somewhere for whatever reason he should be allowed to leave when his contact is up. I'm not a fan of the franchise tag for this very reason. Gives teams more power over players and it doesn't work because eventually the player usually ends up leaving anyway or something like this happens.

Sorry for the longass post should have made it shorter but **** it. Did a lot of blow last night stuff makes me talk too much.

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