Dolphin fans take on the latest offer by the Chiefs

Stinger · 11:50 PM

What the Dolphins fans think of King Carl

and his low ball tatics on Pat Surtain.

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...8&page=1&pp=15

nychief · 03-29-2005, 10:33 PM

I tried to read that... almost as mind numbing as some of us over here....

Pants · 03-29-2005, 11:05 PM

lol, they are hatin' on us.

SoCalRaider · 03-29-2005, 11:06 PM

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Pants · 03-29-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

The Chiefs also know the Phins don't want to spend that kind of money on Surtain.

03-29-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Assured? Only if they don't sign any other quality UFA.

The only thing the Dolphins are assured of if they keep Surtain is a helluva salary to absorb while the team is going nowhere in 2005 and stunting the growth of their current nickel CB for another year.

PunkinDrublic · 03-29-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Sorry we don't have the track record for free agent busts like you do. How's that Warren Sapp trade working for you? Not to mention Kerry off the wagon Collins that was grand slam on your teams part.

SoCalRaider · 03-29-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Sorry we don't have the track record for free agent busts like you do.

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

How's that Warren Sapp trade working for you?

What Sapp trade?

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Not to mention Kerry off the wagon Collins that was grand slam on your teams part.

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

C-Mac · 03-29-2005, 11:21 PM

Was a good read though.
Some Dolphin fans understand football business and some.......dont.

03-29-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

What Sapp trade?

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

as usual...living off past glory again huh

Gravedigger · 03-29-2005, 11:24 PM

I think carl is testing the waters on this. Give Saban and the fins a month to try and cave in and submit to the lesser offer that we have provided before the draft but if they don't fold then go ahead and trade the second during the draft. Carl is holding out I just hope it doesnt backfire on him and San Diego or some other organization doesnt trade a first day pick for him before we get to him. Oh and I read a report that says ty law is getting out of his boot this week. And chris mortensen says that the whole phillip rivers 49ers rumor is completely untrue.

PunkinDrublic · 03-29-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

What Sapp trade?

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

If Collins had anything left don't you think the Giants would have held on to him?

FA the point is Sapp is a bust.

I wouldn't be bragging about that pathetic super bowl appearence I would rather the Chiefs stay home than get embarassed like the faiders did. Gruden was smart to leave because he knew how pathetic your organization really is.

TRR · 03-29-2005, 11:29 PM

I really think the Surtain deal hinges on how Ty Law looks in a week or so. If his foot is progressing, I think they'll sign Ty Law to a contract w/a ton of incentives, and keep the 2nd round pick.

If Law's recovery hits a snag, and the boot needs to stay on, or the x-rays don't look good, then I believe Peterson will try and pull the trigger on Patrick Surtain.

Right now, a healthy Law and a 2nd round pick looks better than Surtain, no second rounder, and a LOW 3rd rounder. However, if Law isn't healthy, then Surtain is a must get.

**Rausch** · 03-29-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

Odd that a fan of a team that's had the most recent sodomization in recent superbol memory brings up failure.

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

What Sapp trade?

The one where you traded production at the DT position for Sapp...

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

Unlike Collins, Dick Vermeil, Al Saunders, Priest Holmes, and Trent Green have actually been on superbowl winning teams.

KCJake · 03-29-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

The Chiefs also know the Phins don't want to spend that kind of money on Surtain.

Exactly! The Chiefs are low-balling the Dolphins right now. No reason for the Chiefs to jump right in and give up their 2nd round pick. Not right now. In two weeks maybe, but not now.

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03-29-2005, 11:24 PM	#11
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7323101	I think carl is testing the waters on this. Give Saban and the fins a month to try and cave in and submit to the lesser offer that we have provided before the draft but if they don't fold then go ahead and trade the second during the draft. Carl is holding out I just hope it doesnt backfire on him and San Diego or some other organization doesnt trade a first day pick for him before we get to him. Oh and I read a report that says ty law is getting out of his boot this week. And chris mortensen says that the whole phillip rivers 49ers rumor is completely untrue.
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03-29-2005, 11:29 PM	#13
TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9870185	I really think the Surtain deal hinges on how Ty Law looks in a week or so. If his foot is progressing, I think they'll sign Ty Law to a contract w/a ton of incentives, and keep the 2nd round pick. If Law's recovery hits a snag, and the boot needs to stay on, or the x-rays don't look good, then I believe Peterson will try and pull the trigger on Patrick Surtain. Right now, a healthy Law and a 2nd round pick looks better than Surtain, no second rounder, and a LOW 3rd rounder. However, if Law isn't healthy, then Surtain is a must get.
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