Chiefs Worrisome things: Offensive Line - Page 2

OldSchool · 10:00 PM

While we were already one of the youngest offensive lines last year, we got even younger this year:

First our Starters:

Eric Fisher (23)
Jeff Allen (24)
Rod Hudson (24)
Rishaw Johnson (25)
Donald Stephenson (25)

Backups (not all of these guys will make the roster obviously, but these are the main ones including the new picks):

Rokevious Watkins (25)
Jeff Linkenbach (26)
Eric Kush (24)
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff (23)
Zach FUlton (22)

Holy Shit! I don't think I've ever heard of any team in the league running with an offensive line that is this young and this inexperienced. With the defensive front 7s that we have to face next year (Rams, Seahawks, Niners, Jets, Cardinals, Bills, Steelers, Patriots), how do they expect this offensive line to hold up well against that? I really hope that they are going to sign a veteran or two to help these younger guys develop and also serve as quality depth or even starters at OG or something.

Here is a taste of the pass rushers/DLs we will face next year:

SF:
Aldon Smith - Justin Smith - Ray McDonald - Ahmad Brooks

St. Louis:
Robert Quinn - Michael Brockers - Aaron Donald - Chris Long

Arizona:
Sam Acho - Calais Campbell - Darnell Dockett - Daryl Washington (MLB blitzes) - John Abraham

Buffalo:
Mario Williams - Marcell Dareus - Kyle Williams - Jerry Hughes

Here are two guys that are still out there who can help.

1. Uche Nwaneri, 30 - He's a solid NFL guard who still plays at a sufficiently high level. He shouldn't cost too much at this point and would go a long way towards improving this OL.

2. Daryn Colledge, 32 - At this point of his career, he's good as a back-up with starter ability and the ability to play either guard position. He offers position versatility and a good amount of NFL experience.

I just think that Dorsey and Reid are playing with fire if their goal is to have our OL learn and develop through trial and error without a single solid veteran presence to help guide the younger guys a long the way.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think that we'll be fine against the schedule that we have?

Exoter175 · 05-10-2014, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the doctor practically has to make the team because we have no other ****ing swing tackle on the roster lol

I look at it like this.

Guys who basically have a spot.

Fisher
Allen
Hudson
Stephenson
Linkenbach
Kush

I think Watkins and Johnson are the ones sweating a little right now.

**RealSNR** · 05-10-2014, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the doctor practically has to make the team because we have no other ****ing swing tackle on the roster lol

mcaj22 · 05-10-2014, 10:10 PM

I don't think it's a guarantee Linkenbach has a spot. He's not Geoff Schwartz potential, he's actually bad.

milkman · 05-10-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

I look at it like this.

Guys who basically have a spot.

Fisher
Allen
Hudson
Stephenson
Linkenbach
Kush

I think Watkins and Johnson are the ones sweating a little right now.

Johnson is going to a starter.

Jeff Allen is the one that will be sweating.

Exoter175 · 05-10-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I don't think it's a guarantee Linkenbach has a spot. He's not Geoff Schwartz potential, he's actually bad.

I don't think its a guarantee Johnson or Watkins have that spot, and since we brought in Linkenbach, I feel like he's got the better chance of sticking.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Johnson is going to a starter.

Jeff Allen is the one that will be sweating.

We're going to have to disagree for once today, I feel like Allen's going to be the starter with Johnson sweating the spot.

**RealSNR** · 05-10-2014, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

I look at it like this.

Guys who basically have a spot.

Fisher
Allen
Hudson
Stephenson
Linkenbach
Kush

I think Watkins and Johnson are the ones sweating a little right now.

The subject of this thread is about continuity problems we're facing on the offensive line.

Linkenbach sucks horse cock and signed only a 1-year deal. Why would we look to him as a starter when we can probably get better production from Rishaw Johnson, whose contract runs longer than one year?

Or ****, just go full rookie and start our 6th rounder? If we don't have anybody else, just go with the young guy, make him work through it, and hope he survives.

We did it with Eric Fisher. Apparently Andy Reid was okay with Alex Smith getting flattened 3 or 4 extra times per game just so he could save face on his #1 pick. Why not do the same again this year only at RG? It might even work out okay for the team.

mcaj22 · 05-10-2014, 10:15 PM

if Jeff Allen didn't get beat out by Jon Asamoah or Geoff Schwartz last year, none of these new nobodies are going to just switch to LG and beat him out either.

it's a bunch of RGs competing for the RG spot. Jeff Allen has no competition and he really hasn't since the day he was drafted here.

htismaqe · 05-10-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Exoter175 · 05-10-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The subject of this thread is about continuity problems we're facing on the offensive line.

Linkenbach sucks horse cock and signed only a 1-year deal. Why would we look to him as a starter when we can probably get better production from Rishaw Johnson, whose contract runs longer than one year?

Or ****, just go full rookie and start our 6th rounder? If we don't have anybody else, just go with the young guy, make him work through it, and hope he survives.

We did it with Eric Fisher. Apparently Andy Reid was okay with Alex Smith getting flattened 3 or 4 extra times per game just so he could save face on his #1 pick. Why not do the same again this year only at RG? It might even work out okay for the team.

I don't think you release linkenbach after signing him to that one year deal, or even signed him to it without thinking he'd be safe. Could have just waited for the UDFA's to hit the market if all you wanted was a camp body.

I hope our 6th rounders make it though, and I feel like we'd be able to keep 9 offensive linemen anyways, so I feel like that one's going to come down to Watkins vs. Johnson.

EDIT: But I'm totally behind starting the rookies and future guys now, if you think they can A. Do it and B. Are the guys of the future.

**RealSNR** · 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He was called "Bones" on the show, not "The Doctor"

Exoter175 · 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

mcaj22 · 05-10-2014, 10:17 PM

one of the rookie olineman will get the magical IR move so they can have the roster space to keep a Linkenfarts.

Exoter175 · 05-10-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

one of the rookie olineman will get the magical IR move so they can have the roster space to keep a Linkenfarts.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's Johnson or Watkins personally. I feel like they'd do well to get the rookies up to speed ASAP, especially when they are both very talented and one is supposed to be as good as anyone else and can play swing tackle.

milkman · 05-10-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

I don't think its a guarantee Johnson or Watkins have that spot, and since we brought in Linkenbach, I feel like he's got the better chance of sticking.

We're going to have to disagree for once today, I feel like Allen's going to be the starter with Johnson sweating the spot.

Allen was one of few picks that Scott Pioli made that I liked, but he has sucked monkey balls.

htismaqe · 05-10-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please God, help us!!!

05-10-2014, 09:40 PM
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Worrisome things: Offensive Line While we were already one of the youngest offensive lines last year, we got even younger this year: First our Starters: Eric Fisher (23) Jeff Allen (24) Rod Hudson (24) Rishaw Johnson (25) Donald Stephenson (25) Backups (not all of these guys will make the roster obviously, but these are the main ones including the new picks): Rokevious Watkins (25) Jeff Linkenbach (26) Eric Kush (24) Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff (23) Zach FUlton (22) Holy Shit! I don't think I've ever heard of any team in the league running with an offensive line that is this young and this inexperienced. With the defensive front 7s that we have to face next year (Rams, Seahawks, Niners, Jets, Cardinals, Bills, Steelers, Patriots), how do they expect this offensive line to hold up well against that? I really hope that they are going to sign a veteran or two to help these younger guys develop and also serve as quality depth or even starters at OG or something. Here is a taste of the pass rushers/DLs we will face next year: SF: Aldon Smith - Justin Smith - Ray McDonald - Ahmad Brooks St. Louis: Robert Quinn - Michael Brockers - Aaron Donald - Chris Long Arizona: Sam Acho - Calais Campbell - Darnell Dockett - Daryl Washington (MLB blitzes) - John Abraham Buffalo: Mario Williams - Marcell Dareus - Kyle Williams - Jerry Hughes Here are two guys that are still out there who can help. 1. Uche Nwaneri, 30 - He's a solid NFL guard who still plays at a sufficiently high level. He shouldn't cost too much at this point and would go a long way towards improving this OL. 2. Daryn Colledge, 32 - At this point of his career, he's good as a back-up with starter ability and the ability to play either guard position. He offers position versatility and a good amount of NFL experience. I just think that Dorsey and Reid are playing with fire if their goal is to have our OL learn and develop through trial and error without a single solid veteran presence to help guide the younger guys a long the way. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think that we'll be fine against the schedule that we have? Last edited by OldSchool; 05-10-2014 at 10:00 PM..
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05-10-2014, 10:10 PM	#18
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	I don't think it's a guarantee Linkenbach has a spot. He's not Geoff Schwartz potential, he's actually bad.
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	if Jeff Allen didn't get beat out by Jon Asamoah or Geoff Schwartz last year, none of these new nobodies are going to just switch to LG and beat him out either. it's a bunch of RGs competing for the RG spot. Jeff Allen has no competition and he really hasn't since the day he was drafted here.
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	one of the rookie olineman will get the magical IR move so they can have the roster space to keep a Linkenfarts.
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