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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:04 PM   #1216
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The offense needs to improve. Period.

Alex. The o-line. We need production from the TE spot. We need to run the ball more. Bowe needs more looks etc.

Thankfully, we have only had 3 games under an entirely new coaching staff, a new QB, and something like a 70% roster overhaul so there is plenty of reason to believe they will.

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:06 PM   #1217
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:13 PM   #1220
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If Alex threw for less than 3000 yards he won.

If more than 3400 I won.

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Currntly on pace for 3680. Much more than a full game of typical Smith production ahead of pace.
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If Alex threw for less than 3000 yards he won.

If more than 3400 I won.

Full contoll. Av, Sig, UN, ...Everything.

Currntly on pace for 3680. Much more than a full game of typical Smith production ahead of pace.
Yeah. I think he will finish ahead of 3400. The offense is going to get better.

Your issue is going to be much like if you saw the Rams 49ers game last night. The Chiefs defense is so dominant, that the Chiefs are going to spend second halves running the ball, instead of throwing. Much like Jacksonville.

Still have to play the Raiders twice, Cleveland.........
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Yeah. I think he will finish ahead of 3400. The offense is going to get better.

Your issue is going to be much like if you saw the Rams 49ers game last night. The Chiefs defense is so dominant, that the Chiefs are going to spend second halves running the ball, instead of throwing. Much like Jacksonville.

Still have to play the Raiders twice, Cleveland.........
We play some straight SHIT defenses. Im sure as shit not gonna lose. I honestly never expected to win. The haters laughed that I set the bar so high for a win. Now hes well ahead of that pace
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Well if you lose to him, I guess its off limits to me, but if you win.....lol
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Well if you lose to him, I guess its off limits to me, but if you win.....lol
Yeah, the bet is us winning the division over Dungver, so................
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We play some straight SHIT defenses. Im sure as shit not gonna lose. I honestly never expected to win. The haters laughed that I set the bar so high for a win. Now hes well ahead of that pace
3400 yards is setting the bar high?
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