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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 01-11-2017, 07:52 PM   #1276
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Does Albie Lopez go too far back?
Oh god. I was at one of his games where he allowed like 12 runs in 2 innings or whatever the hell it was.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:28 PM   #1277
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:40 PM   #1278
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Tony Cruz has more post-season hits and RBI than Mike Trout - what's your point?

Honestly, you sound like a pissed off 12 year old. We get it, Hosmer's your boy. But seriously, I've not seen this kind of panting adulation from anyone post-puberty...ever.

There's some interesting baseball conversation in here and all you want to do is run around like a groupie screaming "ERIC HOSMER IS THE DREAMIEST!!!"

Okay...have fun with that. But stop criticizing people that are speaking directly to his performance.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:35 PM   #1279
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The fascination with Ross Gload baffles me to this day. I am no expert, but he didn't pass the eye test even at first glance. God Bless GMDM.
Moore brought in Jacobs, though. And wasn't it Baird that drafted Hosmer? Could be wrong there.

Jacobs was dogshit. Had one of my first big Royals arguments here with folks insisting that he and a reliever (Farnsworth?) were A+ pickups.

Y'all best keep Dave McCarty's name out of your mouths, though. For some reason I always liked that guy...
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:42 PM   #1280
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Hosmer and Moustakas were GMDM picks. Alex Gordon was Allard Baird.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:50 PM   #1281
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Why did he trade for Billy Burns then?
I always thought they saw him as a Dyson replacement.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:51 PM   #1282
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Hosmer and Moustakas were GMDM picks. Alex Gordon was Allard Baird.
Hoch was the one that was always questioned who picked him.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:06 PM   #1283
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:22 PM   #1284
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Why did he trade for Billy Burns then?
Burns is a cheaper younger version of Dyson.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:04 AM   #1285
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If bad pitching was a video game Albie Lopez would be the final boss.

Bad team C. Jason Kendell 1st. Ross gload 2nd. Mark Teahen SS Tony Pena JR 3rd Alex Gordon RF. Willie Bloomquist Center: David Dejesus LF: Billy butler
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:54 AM   #1286
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Hoch was the one that was always questioned who picked him.
I've always wondered about that myself. Dayton Moore was hired by the Royals a couple of days BEFORE the draft, yet they insisted he had nothing to do with their draft that year. I'd think a brand new GM would at least make a phone call expressing his opinion about which player his new team should select with the #1 overall draft pick.

Edit: OK, Wikipedia says he was officially hired 2 days after the draft. I still think (and thought at the time) that as part of the interview process, Dayton would have expressed an opinion about who the team should take with the #1 overall pick.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:39 AM   #1287
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The fascination with Ross Gload baffles me to this day. I am no expert, but he didn't pass the eye test even at first glance. God Bless GMDM.
Ross Gload's career OPS was only .030 lower than all-universe Hosmer's. Just sayin.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:42 AM   #1288
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If bad pitching was a video game Albie Lopez would be the final boss.

Bad team C. Jason Kendell 1st. Ross gload 2nd. Mark Teahen SS Tony Pena JR 3rd Alex Gordon RF. Willie Bloomquist Center: David Dejesus LF: Billy butler
Tony Pena Jr. How dare you. I always loved seeing him swing out of his shoes. He would swing so hard, his helmet would come flying off. Yet he would hit 1 hr a year. Guy was a hell of a defender, though. If I recall. Hit hit .266 one year and even that, you knew it was a fluke.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:51 AM   #1289
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Burns is a cheaper younger version of Dyson.
Well, to be fair... he has the baserunning ability of Dyson (and a complete void of power). The comparison ends there. He doesn't bring quite the flexibility in the OF.. He's pretty much just an average CF'er with a Johnny Damon-esque arm. He might play RF in a pinch, but you're not gonna want to trot him out there regularly like you could with Dyson. Dyson was a stud Defensively ANYWHERE you put him in the OF. Burns has much better plate discipline than Dyson has ever had... so that's a bit of a bonus when talking about a slap guy you just want to see on the paths.

You could play Dyson every day for extended periods, because of his defensive presence at multiple positions... You're not gonna want to do that with Burns. Burns is a straight up 4th\5th OFer that you use for pinch running duties (or pinch hitting in interleague). He might spell a guy every so often, but that guy is primarily gonna be Cain... or slide Cain to Right.

Completely different roster dynamic with him vs. Dyson.
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Burns is poverty Eaton.

He reminds me a bit of Skip Schumaker. Good enough bat control and a solid batting eye but so little thump that pitchers just challenge him every AB. So you won't get many BBs or strikeouts because pitchers throw him strikes and he has the batting eye to recognize them so he'll swing.

The problem is the massive amount of soft contact and how BABIP dependent his production is going to be. That much soft contact (most of it on the ground) is going to make for a lot of really easy outs, especially when pitchers don't even have to be inside conscious on him. They can fire the ball right at his hands and not really worry about him yanking it over the fence on them. So with all 4 quadrants vailable to them, pitchers can get him off balance and guessing pretty easily, then set about knocking the bat out of his hands if all else fails.

He's a bit like DeJesus was in that he's a guy that can perform admirably as a starter for a .500 or worse team but if you're aiming at 90+ wins and he's starting for you (especially in CF), he's almost certainly the weak link on your squad.
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