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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

Format: POS/Name/2017 Projected Final Level

1) 3B/OF Hunter Dozier, MLB. Dozier bounced back from a disastrous 2015 campaign that had many wondering, myself included, if he was wrecked. His strong offensive performance in 2016 saw Dozier recapture the mature approach that many liked coming up, while also starting to tap into his above-average raw power for the first time.

In addition to his success at the plate, Dozier also proved he could at least HANDLE an OF spot, which could put him in the conversation for 2017 playing time at the major leagues. If the Royals DO end up trading Cheslor Cuthbert, Dozier could find a decent amount of MLB playing time sliding between RF and 3B. With Moustakas recovering from knee surgery, he likely will need more regular breaks from the field. And the streaky Paulo Orlando is just not an intriguing short-side platoon partner for Jarrod Dyson.

2) LHP Matt Strahm, MLB. Strahm just barely skates under the rookie eligibility rules for a pitcher, so he can be included here. Royals fans already got a taste of the lefty’s abilities, as he used his above-average fastball and slurve to dominate out of the pen in 2016. For him to translate that dominance to the rotation, Strahm will need to maintain his velocity (92-94) and continue to improve a changeup that flashed average at times.

If the changeup becomes a weapon he can lean on against righties, Strahm could be a very solid mid-rotation starter and fringe ToR/No. 2 type (think Danny Duffy-lite).

3) RHP Josh Staumont, AAA. This one could blow up on me and look really silly by this time next year, but I’m encouraged by what we saw from Staumont late last year. He showed significantly improved control down the stretch for Northwest Arkansas, including some impressive playoff starts, while maintaining the big-time K ability. That trend continued in the Arizona Fall League.

If Staumont’s control holds, the Royals have a guy with a plus fastball, plus-plus curve, and average change (with a slider that could develop into a real weapon as he matures). He’ll start next season at AAA and could be an addition to the MLB bullpen or even the rotation before the season ends.

4) RF Jorge Bonifacio, AAA. Boni, like Dozier, had a bounceback season in 2016 with the bat, and also played 15-20 pounds lighter than the year before, which added some nice defensive utility according to reports I’ve gotten. He now looks like a guy could provide solid/average RF production in the major leagues… Average defense paired with potential to put up a .275/.335/.450 line. While that’s not all-star level, it IS playable. Especially at pre-arbitration dollars. He’ll get another year in Omaha to refine his approach, and likely be in the mix of a 2018 mini-youth movement… unless moved for MLB reinforcements.

5) C Meibrys Viloria, Low-A (Lexington). I haven’t seen him in person, but I like the pedigree. You’ve got a lefthanded hitting catcher with the defensive ability to stick behind the plate. He was a big-bonus guy out of Colombia (nearly $500k). And his offensive performance has been highly impressive early, with a good combination of power, plate discipline, and contact skills.

He’s forever away from the majors, just now clearing rookie ball, but Viloria is the most exciting prospect KC has had at Idaho Falls since someone on this board was gushing about a 16-year-old SS tearing it up.

6) 1B Ryan O’Hearn, AAA. O’Hearn is a guy who has never gotten a lot of hype from scouts, but he continues to be a strong producer. He’s someone who likely will strikeout about 25 percent of the time at the big-league level, but has the ability to be a .500+ SLG guy. That plays. He also has shown good patience at the plate, posting above-average OBPs at every level.

Bold prediction: I won’t be shocked if O’Hearn takes over at 1B for KC in 2018/2019 and provides similar offensive production to Hosmer out of the gate. He’s probably never going to be a consistent plus average (.290+) hitter, but .270 with 25 HR is something within reach for him. He’ll get his first shot at AAA in 2017.

7) RHP AJ Puckett, A+. Puckett is a high floor, low-ceiling guy who performed about as you’d expect in 2016 after being the Royals’ first pick in the 2016 Rule IV Draft. He’s not flashy, but Puckett does profile as a solid potential back-end starter. Good fastball command and an above-average changeup are his calling cards. If Puckett finds a reliable breaking ball to put batters away, this could tick up. Great athlete, very similar to Jake Odorizzi in that regard.

8) RF Khalil Lee, Low-A (Lexington). Lee was a two-way player in HS and many viewed him as a pitcher first as a pro, but the Royals drafted him as an OF and were reward with a strong debut campaign. Lee is not a big guy, but he produced solid power numbers despite that. He’s a dynamic athlete who could contribute with power and speed.

9) C Chase Vallot, High-A (Wilmington). Vallot has an intriguing bat, with plus raw power. Got off to a great start in 16 before being sidelined and then sidetracked by injury. RH bat may be good enough to push him out from behind the plate, where he has good tools but a long way to go.

10) RHP Jake Junis and RHP Alec Mills (AAA). I'm copping out here and including both at No. 10 because they're so similar. Like Puckett, they each project as a serviceable back of rotation starter. Similar stuff and profiles, though Junis has shown a little better strikeout ability and may have a smidge more upside as a result.

Others of note:

SS/CF Marten Gasparini. Production has been bad for this toolsy player, but Gasparini has speed and pop that jump out at you. At only 19, need to be patient with him... this European signee was even less polished when signing at 16 than the typical Latin America prospect.

OF Seuly Matias. Loud, loud tools. Matias profiles as a classic RF... big-time power potential. He's a long ways from the majors but is one of the Royals' biggest bonus babies from LA.

RHP Ashe Russell. 2014 1st rounder saw his velocity disappear last year and was quickly shut down. He's intriguing one way or the other, even if he ends up as another notch in the belt of the TINSTAAPP saying.

2B Corey Toups. O'Hearn's HS teammate has been an above-average producer for an up-the-middle player. His small stature hides a surprising amount of pop. Could turn into a Mark Grudzielanek type of offensive second baseman at his peak - solid average, lots of 2Bs.

RHP Scott Blewett, LHP Foster Griffin, RHP Nolan Watson - all three have underwhelmed as pros but were drafted in the supplemental round. Stuff and projectability for each is a positive. Wouldn't be surprised to see one of them take a Cody Reed-like step forward this season and crack the 50-75 range on prospect lists. They all have the natural ability.

SS/2B Ricky Aracena - Jose Altuve-sized Aracena is a switch hitting middle infielder who can flat out run. Switch hitter with a good approach.

RHP Pedro Fernandez - I'm still a believer in his stuff, even if he is destined for the pen. Was having a nice 2016 start until injuries derailed him right after his promotion to AA.

Sirs not Appearing in this Prospect List:

RHP Kyle Zimmer. Same story, different year. The Royals are hopeful they FINALLY found the cause of Zimmer's achy shoulder. If they really did, and he can stay healthy, the talent/potential is exciting.

OF Bubba Starling. Never trust a guy named Derek.

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Old 01-11-2017, 08:40 PM   #1278
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Tony Cruz has more post-season hits and RBI than Mike Trout - what's your point?

Honestly, you sound like a pissed off 12 year old. We get it, Hosmer's your boy. But seriously, I've not seen this kind of panting adulation from anyone post-puberty...ever.

There's some interesting baseball conversation in here and all you want to do is run around like a groupie screaming "ERIC HOSMER IS THE DREAMIEST!!!"

Okay...have fun with that. But stop criticizing people that are speaking directly to his performance.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:35 PM   #1279
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The fascination with Ross Gload baffles me to this day. I am no expert, but he didn't pass the eye test even at first glance. God Bless GMDM.
Moore brought in Jacobs, though. And wasn't it Baird that drafted Hosmer? Could be wrong there.

Jacobs was dogshit. Had one of my first big Royals arguments here with folks insisting that he and a reliever (Farnsworth?) were A+ pickups.

Y'all best keep Dave McCarty's name out of your mouths, though. For some reason I always liked that guy...
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I always thought they saw him as a Dyson replacement.
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Hoch was the one that was always questioned who picked him.
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Burns is a cheaper younger version of Dyson.
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Hoch was the one that was always questioned who picked him.
I've always wondered about that myself. Dayton Moore was hired by the Royals a couple of days BEFORE the draft, yet they insisted he had nothing to do with their draft that year. I'd think a brand new GM would at least make a phone call expressing his opinion about which player his new team should select with the #1 overall draft pick.

Edit: OK, Wikipedia says he was officially hired 2 days after the draft. I still think (and thought at the time) that as part of the interview process, Dayton would have expressed an opinion about who the team should take with the #1 overall pick.
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The fascination with Ross Gload baffles me to this day. I am no expert, but he didn't pass the eye test even at first glance. God Bless GMDM.
Ross Gload's career OPS was only .030 lower than all-universe Hosmer's. Just sayin.
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Tony Pena Jr. How dare you. I always loved seeing him swing out of his shoes. He would swing so hard, his helmet would come flying off. Yet he would hit 1 hr a year. Guy was a hell of a defender, though. If I recall. Hit hit .266 one year and even that, you knew it was a fluke.
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Burns is a cheaper younger version of Dyson.
Well, to be fair... he has the baserunning ability of Dyson (and a complete void of power). The comparison ends there. He doesn't bring quite the flexibility in the OF.. He's pretty much just an average CF'er with a Johnny Damon-esque arm. He might play RF in a pinch, but you're not gonna want to trot him out there regularly like you could with Dyson. Dyson was a stud Defensively ANYWHERE you put him in the OF. Burns has much better plate discipline than Dyson has ever had... so that's a bit of a bonus when talking about a slap guy you just want to see on the paths.

You could play Dyson every day for extended periods, because of his defensive presence at multiple positions... You're not gonna want to do that with Burns. Burns is a straight up 4th\5th OFer that you use for pinch running duties (or pinch hitting in interleague). He might spell a guy every so often, but that guy is primarily gonna be Cain... or slide Cain to Right.

Completely different roster dynamic with him vs. Dyson.
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Burns is poverty Eaton.

He reminds me a bit of Skip Schumaker. Good enough bat control and a solid batting eye but so little thump that pitchers just challenge him every AB. So you won't get many BBs or strikeouts because pitchers throw him strikes and he has the batting eye to recognize them so he'll swing.

The problem is the massive amount of soft contact and how BABIP dependent his production is going to be. That much soft contact (most of it on the ground) is going to make for a lot of really easy outs, especially when pitchers don't even have to be inside conscious on him. They can fire the ball right at his hands and not really worry about him yanking it over the fence on them. So with all 4 quadrants vailable to them, pitchers can get him off balance and guessing pretty easily, then set about knocking the bat out of his hands if all else fails.

He's a bit like DeJesus was in that he's a guy that can perform admirably as a starter for a .500 or worse team but if you're aiming at 90+ wins and he's starting for you (especially in CF), he's almost certainly the weak link on your squad.
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