Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead - Page 139

MoreLemonPledge · 10:32 AM

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

**dirk digler** · 12-02-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Except that those two either perpetuated or covered up crimes for years. There was a conspiracy of which both participated. Both escaped punishment their crimes for years.

Jovan Belcher went temporarily insane and/or was under the influence and did something stupid in a few seconds of his life. He killed himself and thus will not pay for his crime. Like the Penn State scandals, those left behind as victims will.

I realize it is still too early but I am just a little bothered by some of what I am reading and witnessing out of the Chiefs organization in regards to this.

If you followed what the WWE did when Chris Benoit did the same thing they completely wiped him from everything. It is like he never existed. Once the details of what he did were known he was publicly condemned and shit on just like he deserved to be. Vince McMahon called him a monster.

The same thing needs to happen to Belcher much like it happened with Benoit, and Paterno.

Reerun_KC · 12-02-2012, 04:52 PM

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When did Reerun take over your account?

I dont have sympathy for murderers... Regardless of they are Chiefs players or not.

I have long passed the idiolization of Chiefs players many many years ago.

I dont have feelings for a millionare playing a game offing himself. I just dont.

I do however feel some compassion and sympathy for the women and the child. But this shit happens daily across this country. Where is the outcry and justice for them?

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-02-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I dont have sympathy for murderers... Regardless of they are Chiefs players or not.

I have long passed the idiolization of Chiefs players many many years ago.

I dont have feelings for a millionare playing a game offing himself. I just dont.

I do however feel some compassion and sympathy for the women and the child. But this shit happens daily across this country. Where is the outcry and justice for them?

Preaching to the chior

Reerun_KC · 12-02-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I realize it is still too early but I am just a little bothered by some of what I am reading and witnessing out of the Chiefs organization in regards to this.

If you followed what the WWE did when Chris Benoit did the same thing they completely wiped him from everything. It is like he never existed. Once the details of what he did were known he was publicly condemned and shit on just like he deserved to be. Vince McMahon called him a monster.

The same thing needs to happen to Belcher much like it happened with Benoit, and Paterno.

Very well said!!!!

Reerun_KC · 12-02-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Preaching to the chior

Fair enough Dave....

**dirk digler** · 12-02-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

I agree completely. Klinkscale said this on the postgame and I agreed with him too.

You don't venerate a murderer-coward.

Prayers for the families and survivors, sure. "Let's play this one for Javon"?

Yep. I am kind of surprised more people don't get this.

Frazod · 12-02-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

This is akin to Penn State players remembering Paterno and Sandusky with t-shirts.

No it's not. Sandusky was a serial pedophile who abused countless boys over a period of decades, and Paterno stood by and did nothing about it for decades.

What Belcher did was horrible, but up until yesterday, what had he done wrong? All these people remember him as a person, a friend, not a killer.

If one of your friends did this, would you just shit all over years of friendship and go piss on his fresh grave?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep. I am kind of surprised more people don't get this.

I don't understand how the fans "don't get it" but I do somewhat understand that his friends and teammates have conflicting emotions less than 40 hours after these incidents occurred.

**Easy 6** · 12-02-2012, 04:58 PM

Man, Studebaker was breaking my heart in the interview on cbs.

memyselfI · 12-02-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I realize it is still too early but I am just a little bothered by some of what I am reading and witnessing out of the Chiefs organization in regards to this.

If you followed what the WWE did when Chris Benoit did the same thing they completely wiped him from everything. It is like he never existed. Once the details of what he did were known he was publicly condemned and shit on just like he deserved to be. Vince McMahon called him a monster.

The same thing needs to happen to Belcher much like it happened with Benoit, and Paterno.

I think when it's a team sport it's different. I am sure not one of those players or others in that organization condone what he's done. But I also don't think they are going to turn on him because of what he did.

As I said before, I just watched my son's soccer teams try to deal with the sudden and tragic death of one of theirs. I think there are few bonds like teammates who become like family. I completely understand why the Chiefs players want to honor him for the man THEY KNEW not the one he became yesterday.

**banyon** · 12-02-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

No it's not. Sandusky was a serial pedophile who abused countless boys over a period of decades, and Paterno stood by and did nothing about it for decades.

What Belcher did was horrible, but up until yesterday, what had he done wrong? All these people remember him as a person, a friend, not a killer.

If one of your friends did this, would you just shit all over years of friendship and go piss on his fresh grave?

Well, it's not like it's just some posters here on Chiefsplanet that think it's inappropriate. Chiefs' management/ownership persuaded players not to wear the number on their jerseys because it sent the wrong message. If he was their best bud or whatever, then that' fine, but the organization can't be showing support for a murderer.

Frazod · 12-02-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Well, it's not like it's just some posters here on Chiefsplanet that think it's inappropriate. Chiefs' management/ownership persuaded players not to wear the number on their jerseys because it sent the wrong message. If he was their best bud or whatever, then that' fine, but the organization can't be showing support for a murderer.

And I agree with that. But the people who knew him as a friend are still coming to grips with what happened, and it's going to take more than a day for that to happen.

Remember, he was their buddy for a long time - he's only been a suicidal murderer for a day. I think people should cut them a little slack.

memyselfI · 12-02-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

Well, it's not like it's just some posters here on Chiefsplanet that think it's inappropriate. Chiefs' management/ownership persuaded players not to wear the number on their jerseys because it sent the wrong message. If he was their best bud or whatever, then that' fine, but the organization can't be showing support for a murderer.

Exactly. They should allow the individual players to do what they feel is appropriate and let them take the responsibility for their actions. The FRANCHISE cannot be seen as 'condoning murder' in any way, shape, or form. Likewise, I think it's wrong for them to act like Belcher's loss is insignificant. The team had a bit more than 24 hours to figure out what was the most respectful approach to all involved while still allowing his friends to honor their fallen teammate. A very delicate situation that I think they've handled rather well.

Another thought, assuming he told them what he'd done, Jovan might have been showing some serious remorse for his actions to Pioli and Crennel. They were not afraid to be near him even though he was apparently distraught and with a gun. I think that speaks volumes on how much they believed Jovan had acted out of character and was of no danger to them.

**banyon** · 12-02-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Exactly. They should allow the individual players to do what they feel is appropriate and let them take the responsibility for their actions. The FRANCHISE cannot be seen as 'condoning murder' in any way, shape, or form. Likewise, I think it's wrong for them to act like Belcher's loss is insignificant. The team had a bit more than 24 hours to figure out what was the most respectful approach to all involved while still allowing his friends to honor their fallen teammate. A very delicate situation that I think they've handled rather well.

You still don't get it.

**dirk digler** · 12-02-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't understand how the fans "don't get it" but I do somewhat understand that his friends and teammates have conflicting emotions less than 40 hours after these incidents occurred.

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Originally Posted by banyon

Well, it's not like it's just some posters here on Chiefsplanet that think it's inappropriate. Chiefs' management/ownership persuaded players not to wear the number on their jerseys because it sent the wrong message. If he was their best bud or whatever, then that' fine, but the organization can't be showing support for a murderer.

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Originally Posted by frazod

And I agree with that. But the people who knew him as a friend are still coming to grips with what happened, and it's going to take more than a day for that to happen.

Remember, he was their buddy for a long time - he's only been a suicidal murderer for a day. I think people should cut them a little slack.

I agree with all of these. And I am honestly not trying to be a dick about this.

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