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Old 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM  
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Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:17 PM   #136
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Another fun thing to ponder..

How many games would the Broncos have won last year if their QB threw 8 TD's, threw 20 INT's and fumbled 10 times?

Answer: maybe 4
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:18 PM   #137
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You say this but yet you're using last year to draw conclusions.

Why don't you read what I'm about to show you and understand it since you apparently know football...

8 TD's, 20 INT's and 10 fumbles

Now try to use that smart football knowledge and tell me any team in the NFL that can win when their QB provides that kind of production.

Heren't a hint:

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I'm not doubting the utter incompetence of Cassel. Add in the fact you all had a bad HC and it's simply a bad situation for the team. That being said, inserting Alex Smith, a new HC and a new coaching staff, along with a new front office and I find it hard to believe that this team will make the playoffs. I don't care how much talent you think the this team has. It still has to gell.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:23 PM   #138
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QB-Donks by far
RB-Chiefs by far
TE-Chiefs
WR-Donks by far, but Bowe is good tho
OL-Push...you damn well bet that Manning makes them look good with his quick decisions
DL-Donks..Chiefs weakest unit, but Donks don't really have anyone special there anyway
LB-Chiefs by far...Von is best, but we have 3 pro bowlers. Better as a group.
DB-Chiefs-Not by much, but Champ is descending and I'd take Berry and Flowers over DRC and Moore any day of the week and it's not close.
I'd rather look at it this way:

Passer: DEN
Runners: KC
Receivers: DEN
Run Blocking: KC
Pass Blocking: Even

Pass Rush: DEN
Pass Coverage: Even
Run Defense: DEN

Special Teams: DEN

The Chiefs are more talented than the Broncos in some positions, but it's at all the wrong positions to win games.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:26 PM   #139
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I'd rather look at it this way:

Passer: DEN
Runners: KC
Receivers: DEN
Run Blocking: KC
Pass Blocking: Even

Pass Rush: DEN
Pass Coverage: Even
Run Defense: DEN

Special Teams: DEN

The Chiefs are more talented than the Broncos in some positions, but it's at all the wrong positions to win games.
Really? Now that Doom is gone who is there outside of Von?
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:30 PM   #140
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Really? Now that Doom is gone who is there outside of Von?
Shaun Phillips was brought in. He had 9 sacks last year. He is similar in size to Von Miller.
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Really? Now that Doom is gone who is there outside of Von?
Outside of Hali and Houston, the Chiefs had 8 sacks last year.

Outside of Von and Doom, the Broncos had 22.5 sacks last season.

It's really not close.
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Outside of Hali and Houston, the Chiefs had 8 sacks last year.

Outside of Von and Doom, the Broncos had 22.5 sacks last season.

It's really not close.
Different schemes
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Outside of Hali and Houston, the Chiefs had 8 sacks last year.

Outside of Von and Doom, the Broncos had 22.5 sacks last season.

It's really not close.
Chiefs didn't have a lead for most of the season and it's a completely different scheme.
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You're being homers.

We have 0 pass rushers on this team outside of those two guys. That's why we had a lack of sacks.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:13 PM   #145
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You're being homers.

We have 0 pass rushers on this team outside of those two guys. That's why we had a lack of sacks.
You've never heard of Derrick Johnson or Eric Berry have you?
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You've never heard of Derrick Johnson or Eric Berry have you?
Why did you bring up these two?
Neither are pass rushers

Johnson has 18 sacks in what 8 years
Berry has 2 sacks for his career
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You've never heard of Derrick Johnson or Eric Berry have you?
The guys who have combined for 7 sacks since Berry entered the league?

By comparison, Wesley Woodyard and Chris Harris combined for 8. In 2012.
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The guys who have combined for 7 sacks since Berry entered the league?

By comparison, Wesley Woodyard and Chris Harris combined for 8. In 2012.
We're not running grandpa Romeo's timid "read and react" boring defense anymore.
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The same Joel Dressen that had less receiving yards than Moeaki, our 3rd TE? Even though he had 8 more catches than him too? He sounds pretty awesome to me.

You sure do know football!
Not one TE from KC on this list:

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...c-wests-top-40

Oh, btw--12 Broncos and 11 kc players are listed.
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We're not running grandpa Romeo's timid "read and react" boring defense anymore.
Derrick Johnson has played for guys other than Romeo, you surely realize. He's never been a pass rusher.

Eric Berry has 2 sacks in the NFL, and had 3 sacks in college. I don't think he'll ever be a pass rusher either.

The Chiefs have only had 3 halfway decent pass rushers in the last half decade. Hali, Houston, and Gilberry. That's not changing this year.
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