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**BigRedChief** · 11-09-2015, 11:44 PM

Almost everyone agrees that if boxing rules were used Mayweather would win. No contest.

So here is the rules for our hypothetical fight:

Either no rules or UFC rules.

I think Rousey gets him into an armbar in the 1st round and its over.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

This is the EXACT reason why Ronda couldn't take Floyd down... Floyd is undefeated for a reason dude, he's a very smart guy. He knows good and well that Ronda Will take him down, and sub him if she can get into clinch range.. He is not going to let that happen. If Ronda was masterful at cutting off the cage, and setting up and timing takedowns like a GSP or something then I could see it, but with the way she plods foward with her hands down. She'd be so off balance he could take her down...Though he would opt to knock her out.

Its not that damned hard to grab someone. Strikers have given up on the idea that they can just avoid a clinch long ago. In MMA, strikers have to have takedown defense or they just flat-out lose.

I'm not saying it would take much, you give Mayweather just 6 months with a good grappling coach, and I'm putting all my money on him. But right now, he would not be capable of avoiding the clinch and the hip toss.

**Saul Good** · 11-10-2015, 11:00 AM

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Somehow this reminds me of the Tyson vs. Lee debates.

Everyone just assumes that the martial artist is this master strategist and the boxer is a slow, lumbering dipshit that doesn't know how to defend himself against a takedown.

Just exactly how the hell is Rousey going to get Mayweather to go to ground? The girls Rousey is hip-tossing aren't anywhere near as athletic as Mayweather. Moreover, once she gets him there, he's not going to just give her his arm. Finally, we've seen someone like Jon Jones simply be too damn strong to take out via a simple arm bar and Mayweather will have a similar relative advantage with regards to Rousey.

Maybe in 10 fights, Mayweather screws up a couple of times and Rousey gets to him, gets him on the ground, gets a hold of his arm, gets it extended and gets a rip. But Mayweather's going to win the vast majority of those matchups. He's a brilliant fighter and among the best athletes in the history of the sport. He's not going to just stand there - he'll learn some basic defenses and lean on some pretty insane athleticism to pick his spots and poke/pop Rousey into the L.

Rhonda can judo throw women, though. That means she would beat Floyd Mayweather.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Explain to me how she's going to get past a Mayweather jab...the most effective weapon in the history of boxing. She's a great female athlete. That makes her a ridiculously, laughably bad athlete compared to professional boxers.

She is slow. She is weak. Floyd would abuse her, and it would be painful to watch.

That jab needs a lot of time and rounds to work, he gets all the time in the world in boxing because he can freely clinch and wait for the break over and over again.

She would just take it on the way to the clinch. She would not be knocked out, and in the first clinch it would quickly be over.

WhawhaWhat · 11-10-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

That jab needs a lot of time and rounds to work, he gets all the time in the world in boxing because he can freely clinch and wait for the break over and over again.

She would just take it on the way to the clinch. She would not be knocked out, and in the first clinch it would quickly be over.

His sub defense couldn't catch up fast enough to her skill on the ground and her clinch game is Olympic level good and would dominate. If she can avoid Mayweather landing a big punch, she wins in less than a round.

**Saul Good** · 11-10-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Its not that damned hard to grab someone. Strikers have given up on the idea that they can just avoid a clinch long ago. In MMA, strikers have to have takedown defense or they just flat-out lose.

I'm not saying it would take much, you give Mayweather just 6 months with a good grappling coach, and I'm putting all my money on him. But right now, he would not be capable of avoiding the clinch and the hip toss.

He gets into clenches against the best boxers in the world. He's not getting into a clench against someone who wouldn't even attempt a punch. You realize that, right? You have to realize that Rousey would never even attempt a punch. The instant she did, he would counter with a blur of punches to her face...without boxing gloves. The fight would be over instantaneously.

Knowing that he doesn't have to defend himself from a punch, he'd just stand back and jab the **** out of her and bail the instant she tried to shoot. Of course, that moment would never come because she would have t square up against him and drop her head and hands to shoot. Suddenly, she would wake up with a doctor shining a flashlight into her pupils.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Rhonda can judo throw women, though. That means she would beat Floyd Mayweather.

Men do not have magical gender-based abilities do avoid a hip toss once they get into a clinch. Ronda has plenty of strength and training to toss anyone who is anywhere near her weight.

It would not take a lot of time or training to teach Mayweather what he needs to know to beat the hell out of Ronda, but right now he does not have that knowledge, so he'd just quickly lose.

A good analogy might be if you put a huge guy with a sword up against, say an archer who has no other weapons. The big guy would just die unless you give him a shield.

**Saul Good** · 11-10-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

That jab needs a lot of time and rounds to work, he gets all the time in the world in boxing because he can freely clinch and wait for the break over and over again.

She would just take it on the way to the clinch. She would not be knocked out, and in the first clinch it would quickly be over.

A jab from Floyd Mayweather wearing 4 ounce gloves doesn't need any time to work. It would be the hardest punch she has ever taken. It would also be the most accurate punch she has ever taken. It is impossible for the best fighters to defend when he is wearing boxing gloves. A woman with only rudimentary boxing skills fighting him would be an absolute joke.

Jerm · 11-10-2015, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

lol all u guys who chose mayweather know absolutely nothing about fighting. rousey would take floyd down in about 10 seconds and then the fight would be over in about under a minute probably

**Saul Good** · 11-10-2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Men do not have magical gender-based abilities do avoid a hip toss once they get into a clinch. Ronda has plenty of strength and training to toss anyone who is anywhere near her weight.

It would not take a lot of time or training to teach Mayweather what he needs to know to beat the hell out of Ronda, but right now he does not have that knowledge, so he'd just quickly lose.

A good analogy might be if you put a huge guy with a sword up against, say an archer who has no other weapons. The big guy would just die unless you give him a shield.

Except, in this case, Floyd is the big guy and the archer...and Rousey is carrying a butter knife.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He gets into clenches against the best boxers in the world.

None of those boxers are going to hip toss him, so thats not really relevant.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He's not getting into a clench against someone who wouldn't even attempt a punch. You realize that, right? You have to realize that Rousey would never even attempt a punch. The instant she did, he would counter with a blur of punches to her face...without boxing gloves. The fight would be over instantaneously.

Knowing that he doesn't have to defend himself from a punch, he'd just stand back and jab the **** out of her and bail the instant she tried to shoot. Of course, that moment would never come because she would have t square up against him and drop her head and hands to shoot. Suddenly, she would wake up with a doctor shining a flashlight into her pupils.

Floyd would not be able to avoid a clinch, period. I've seen too many strikers try and fail to avoid a clinch for too many years to believe that Floyd is special. Floyd is not known for avoiding a clinch, he actually relies on it.

**Saul Good** · 11-10-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

None of those boxers are going to hip toss him, so thats not really relevant.

Floyd would not be able to avoid a clinch, period. I've seen too many strikers try and fail to avoid a clinch for too many years to believe that Floyd is special. Floyd is not known for avoiding a clinch, he actually relies on it.

You've seen a bunch of tomato cans try...not even tomato cans. The best striker in UFC couldn't last a round against an undercard for a prize fight.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Except, in this case, Floyd is the big guy and the archer...and Rousey is carrying a butter knife.

haha, bullshit. I think we're done.

I don't think you appreciate how great Ronda is at the hip toss. With her its shocking how quick she is with that move. Her fighting ability in general is very narrow and very specific, her striking sucks (except maybe compared to other women I guess), she can't kick, and she doesn't have much Jiu-Jitsu game other than the arm bar but she's extremely good at what she is trained to do.

Right now, as they stand without giving Floyd any new training, he would not have a clue how to fight her. She would break his arm within minutes.

Mr. Laz · 11-10-2015, 11:18 AM

Floyd is a defensive fighter and counter-puncher.

That plays right into Rousey's hands, she would have a good chance.

A brawler type fighter would be harder for Rousey to handle.

**alnorth** · 11-10-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The best striker in UFC couldn't last a round against an undercard for a prize fight.

I agree, professional boxers are almost always better strikers than MMA strikers. They don't even have to consider the possibility that their opponent could do anything other than punch, so they train nothing but striking.

Brock · 11-10-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

lol all u guys who chose mayweather know absolutely nothing about fighting. rousey would take floyd down in about 10 seconds and then the fight would be over in about under a minute probably

Wow, convincing argument here

A guy who's been in a ring for 30 years of his life and is considered a generational champ is magically going to get outfoxed by a young woman with 12 fights under her belt, effortlessly I might add

Cool story

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Floyd is a defensive fighter and counter-puncher. That plays right into Rousey's hands, she would have a good chance. A brawler type fighter would be harder for Rousey to handle. __________________
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