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[Ultra Peanut]

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[Mecca]

Well to be perfectly honest with you, most casual fans of wrestling or well the ones you need to do better than a 1, don't care about midgets flipping around the ring.

Us minority fans like talent, casual fans like guys who have charisma.

Samoa Joe would never in a million years mainevent a top national promotions show.

[SnakeXJones]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well to be perfectly honest with you, most casual fans of wrestling or well the ones you need to do better than a 1, don't care about midgets flipping around the ring.

Us minority fans like talent, casual fans like guys who have charisma.

Samoa Joe would never in a million years mainevent a top national promotions show.

Finally somebody agrees with me Samoa Joe should be in ROH just collecting a check

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well to be perfectly honest with you, most casual fans of wrestling or well the ones you need to do better than a 1, don't care about midgets flipping around the ring.

Us minority fans like talent, casual fans like guys who have charisma.

Samoa Joe would never in a million years mainevent a top national promotions show.

I think he could in the right situation...I mean look at some of the guys Vince somehow manages to get over, if even for a short bit.

Hell Punk has turned himself into the best heel in the biz...great worker plus given material that is tailor made for him and that he can mold.

Russo just has a hard on for doing the most bizarre shit possibly...I have no idea what he's thinking 99.9% of the time.

[Mecca]

CM Punk has charisma...and he's a pretty good worker.

Samoa Joe for 1 is fat, and like it or not when your body looks like that it immediately hurts you or puts you in 1 of a few gimmicks. No one takes you seriously as serious wrestler badass when you look like you can't put your fork down and workout.

For 2 he looks like he manages a Sam Goody.

For 3 he made his name on the indies having smaller guys bump their asses off for him and take his stiff shots.

TNA has a lot of small guys so he looks big..if he was on WWE TV he'd look like a short fat guy.

[TrickyNicky]

Reaper, have you ever thought about watching Puro?

[Mecca]

Even Puro is down, it's nothing like it was in the 90's but you can only take so many repeated head drops before it's gotta tone down.

[TrickyNicky]

Yeah it is down. But the great thing about Puro is that there is about 15 (1990-2005) years of great wrestling to work your way through.

[Mecca]

In some ways I have a hard time watching some of those 90's All Japan stuff, sure the matches are phenomenal and the Kings Road style is just completely brutal to work but then you realize what became of those guys...

Misawa's dead largely because he continued to wrestle, Kobashi is basically crazy...etc etc.

[TrickyNicky]

Misawa shouldn't have been wrestling at that point. But, with the culture and mentality of the Japanese, I am not surprised he put himself at risk to keep the company afloat.

[Mecca]

The thing is if before that happened you told me a prominent Japanese wrestler would die in the ring I'd have said Kobashi with 100% certainty, I always thought he'd end up that way.

That guy if you showed him to any non wrestling fan they'd wonder if he was out of his mind.

[KcMizzou]

As a guy who's never been a fan of pro wrestling, I have to say.. this thread is fascinating.

At one point, people believed it was real (I guess), and now that it's common knowledge that it's not... it's morphed into a completely different thing.

Hell, there's enough wrasslin' terminology that it seems like it's own language.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hatin'... it's just interesting.

[TrickyNicky]

They both have been dumped on their necks countless times. I think Misawa got the worst of it because he was THE MAN as soon as Jumbo started to wind down. From like 1992 to 2003, his upper spine probably compacted and slipped discs from the constant head-drops, but he never got them fused or anything.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

As a guy who's never been a fan of pro wrestling, I have to say.. this thread is fascinating.

At one point, people believed it was real (I guess), and now that it's common knowledge that it's not... it's morphed into a completely different thing.

Hell, there's enough wrasslin' terminology that it seems like it's own language.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hatin'... it's just interesting.

There is a lot of wrestling terminology but what you see here is basically "smark discussion" of smart fans who realize what goes on backstage and all that jazz.

There are still plenty of fans who know it's fake but aren't really in the know so to speak. If you talked about wrestling the way I talk about it with a huge number of fans they'd look at you like you had snakes growing out of your head.

If you like MMA you'd probably like watching All Japan matches from the 90's they were stiff as ****, stiff means they really hit each other by the way.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

They both have been dumped on their necks countless times. I think Misawa got the worst of it because he was THE MAN as soon as Jumbo started to wind down. From like 1992 to 2003, his upper spine probably compacted and slipped discs from the constant head-drops, but he never got them fused or anything.

Well Kobashi I always thought took more than anyone else because deep down he had that desire to prove he fit in. Mainly because at that time in Japan almost all the pro wrestlers were guys from real sports like Misawa was a 2 time amateur wrestling champion and all of that...

Kobashi was really just a fan, I always thought he took way more to try to prove he belonged.

[TrickyNicky]

Kobashi at least took time off when his knees gave out. Misawa broke his ****ing orbital (facial bone) and still wrestled to complete the Carnival (round-robin tournament going for weeks).