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08-09-2001, 08:31 AM | #16 |
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Best wishes. I just called my mom to tell her I love her. Give your mom a big hug from all of us here at the planet.
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08-09-2001, 08:51 AM | #17 |
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Very sorry to hear such terrible news...
On a similar note I pretty much lost my mother last night also. It is very ironic that you mention the hug your mother thing. Last night my wife and I had a surprise anniversary party for my parents and hers. Ironically they were married on the same day. But anyway, to give you a little context about my relationship with my mom...I'm the second of two children and have always been her baby..yada, yada, yada...She has always been a great mother. Always concerned about everything in my life, calls a couple times a week. Always wanting to come up and see me etc.etc.etc... About two years ago she got drug into the Baptist church aka religious cult. Over the past two years as the brainwashing was in progress she slowly pulled away. It was very gradual and not that noticeable at first. But last night was kind of the big official cutting of the ties. First she tried to back out of coming all together. When she was there she was noticeably unhappy cause he wasn't around "her people" and even made a comment about how she "has a new life now" and it was used in the context of 'my church family is my family" type jab....When they left I walked them out to their car they both jumped in the car as quick as possible without giving my the opportunity to give her a hug....This is from a mother that has absolutely refused to let me get away without a hug for 29 years of my life...It all started making sense when she made the comment that "I haven't seen your bathroom since you restored it..." The bathroom was restored over a year ago. My parents only live an hour and 15 minutes away...My brother live over 7 hours away and they have been to his house over 5 or 6 times in the past year. But I guess that is different cause he is part of the Baptist cult.... I guess the moral of the story is don't let your parents grow up to be Baptist...
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BIG DADDY's update:
Today I found out that they were going to try and stabilize her heart by shocking it. It is hard to see someone you love soooo much who has, and will, do anything for you, in that kind of pain and scared. You have to be strong for them, and I was, but tell you the truth BIG DADDY is kind of an emotional ***** when it comes down to losing the ones he loves most. The procedure went off without any complications and her heart went back to a normal rate. She immediatly started getting color back in her face and looked MUCH better. Within the last two hours we have started getting signs that the organs in her body are starting to respond and they have stabilized her body temperature. We are by no means out of the woods yet but I could not have asked for a better day. BTW, I want to thank all of those on the planet that have included us in your prayers and best wishes, you guys are awesome and words cannot begin to express our gratitude. I will keep you posted as I know more. Thanx again. Troy Larson AKA BIG DADDY
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Glad to hear she's improving and I hope she'll continue to do so.
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I am really sorry to hear about your mom. I have a lot of feelings about organized religion myself, but I am sure that they do not compare to yours under the circumstances. I also believe that it would never be gods will for your relationship with your mom to become so distant. My mother and sister are Nazarene's which is VERY similar the Baptists in there beliefs. They are also strong in there beliefs but do not let it come between them and their relationship with me and my father. Any religion that expresses this new life and new family thing especially when encouraging a division between them and anyone who does not have the same belief system is cultish by nature and does not sound good. I can tell you from experience that all Baptists are not that way and it sounds like your mom is in a bad church. All you can do is continue to love her unconditionally and hope she finds her way out. That is a real tough situation, I wish you all the best in bringing her back around.
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Glad to hear things are looking up for your mom. I'm watching my grandparents get old and its tough. They are both in their 80s and its sad when they can't remember things and need help with simple tasks. Anyway, I have an slight idea where your coming from. otter ~gonna kiss his mom this weekend |
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Otter,
Good for you. There are no more hugs and kisses when their gone, getem while you can. :) BIG DADDY Feeling sentimental
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08-10-2001, 05:36 AM | #23 |
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Wishing your Mom the most miraculous of recoveries. My thoughts and prayers for her and your family Big Daddy.
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08-10-2001, 06:09 AM | #24 |
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Troy, aka Big Daddy,
It's good to hear your mom has made some improvement. I've never had to experience the extreme illness of a parent so I can't really relate, except to know that it must be one of the toughest things you've faced. Your mother, you and all of your family remain in our prayers. JL80, You have an equally tough situation. I just want to say to you, I was raised a Baptist, and I can assure you that is not a doctrine of the Church. Obviously there's some weird stuff going on at that local church. I wish I knew something to tell you, but I'm at a loss. Hopefully she'll realize what is happening before it's too late. As Cody says "keep the faith" and hope for the best. I can't help but believe she'll come around eventually and you have to be there for her when she does. God bless both of you.
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Jl80,
Why is this all your mother's fault? Or why is it automatically the Church's doing? Let me share a little bit with you about what is probably going on, if you can grasp this. The Baptist faith stresses conversion, radically so, as an evidence that one truly believes. The preaching can be very centered on heaven and hell, which is real, but is NOT the emphasis of orthodox Christian preaching (Christ is). When you and your mom had a more intimate relationship, the thoughts of eternal life, hell, salvation, conversion, moral truth, etc... were probably not part of your mutual daily banter. Now when she sees you, her beloved son, not just as a son but as a sinner living in the peril of unbelief, a certain awful fear lurks in her thoughts about your eternal destiny. She may also notice things about your lifestyle that are morally repugnant to the teaching of the Bible, which she now believes with her whole heart. You may see this as cultish behavior (and it sure sounds like it) but the church DOES offer a community of love, trust, understanding, affirmation, challenges to growth and service, and brings out one's gifts as God has distributed them. I will not attempt to explain her behavior at a family gathering. I hope you will consider that she is different and I would say that she loves you MORE not less than before, but now that her eyes have been opened to spiritual reality, there is an adjustment that is being made. It is very difficult for her as she sees the little boy she raised and loves so far away from her God and His love. I'll but out if I'm intruding, KCJ BB Chaplain
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Update#2
Today we thought we might get out of the woods but that was not to be the case. Moms heart rate has went off the chart again reaching a rate of well over a 140. One of the nurses monitoring said that it reached 190 at one point. My mother is 65 and I knew that was not good. Her temperature now cannot be maintained either. She is discouraged and is feeling like it is hopeless at times. I would give my life in a second to save hers for just a few more years. I have had a little to drink tonight and hope I am not sniveling but I am just was hoping that those of you that have been keeping us in your prayers continue because we can use all of the help we can get. Thanx once again to all of you that have cared and are praying for us as well as sending us your best wishes. You guys are the best. Troy Larson AKA BIG DADDY
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I'm sorry for your situation BIG DADDY....
Life sometimes doesn't make sense. Me and my parents relationship is.....well, there isn't one. And for good reason. Yet both of them are in perfect health, and unfortunately someone like you, with a relationship like you have, has to suffer through something like this. Sometimes these things just heal themselves. Be with her and let her know "you're there" for her...Letting her know how you feel is just as important as anything...:)
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Peace be with you, Troy
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His love drives out every vestige of fear. I will continue to pray and hope this suffering brings you closer to God who loves you so dearly. KCJ BB Chaplain
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Last Update:
They ended up having to shock her heart again the night before last and it finally stabilized. We are out of the woods with the infection and hopefully there will be no more major problems with the heart. She was released last night. I just wanted to thank all of you that have kept us in your prayers and have sent us your best wishes. Thank you once again. BIG DADDY Taking full advantage of his mom still being around. :)
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