Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 172

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Marco Polo · 07-09-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

C Rob Johnson promoted; let the Yadi injury speculation begin.

Good. Sit Yadi for a week and let him rest.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-09-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

C Rob Johnson promoted; let the Yadi injury speculation begin.

Being in the lineup tonight should end the speculation.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...a4290a330.html

Pepe Silvia · 07-09-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wigginton is finally gone. Per PA, probably the worst Cardinal in history.

It needed to happen. Terrible awful ball player.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2013, 04:20 PM

Jesus. Is Matheny trying to kill Yadi?

Mi_chief_fan · 07-09-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Being in the lineup tonight should end the speculation.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...a4290a330.html

Definitely.

VAChief · 07-09-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jesus. Is Matheny trying to kill Yadi?

This makes no sense if you call up Johnson. If you want to rest Yadi, it makes sense not to have Ty McFatty as your only back up option. If your going to play YM why not bring up a real hitter. Johnson will do nothing to enhance our pinch hitting needs.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

C Rob Johnson promoted; let the Yadi injury speculation begin.

I read an article where Mo had to talk Rob Johnson into taking the AAA catchers job. He wanted an experienced catcher to mentor the young pitchers and told him point blank that no matter how he did in AAA Cruz will always be ahead of him. He was being hired to be a mentor.

This is a payback call up. Bet we get a veteran RH batter at the trade deadline.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

I am just biased about Kozma right now so that probably clouds my thinking. He started out ok and in the last month or more his offense has gone completely in the tank. He is so bad that I would be sorely tempted bat Waino or Shelby 8th when they pitch.

A good answer would be to get a real major league shortstop from someone else but the price will likely be too high for the quality we receive. Thank god Carpenter has more than solidified the 2b spot. The gaps left are CF and SS.

If they are projected the same, see if Jackson can get hot like Kozma did last year. If its worse, put Kozma back in.

No way are we trading for a talented SS at the trade deadline. The price would be way too high.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jesus. Is Matheny trying to kill Yadi?

I just don't get this. Molina needs rest beyond an injury or soreness. Why would you not take advantage of playing the Astros? We are back in first place, just finished a feel good sweep, Pirates and Reds are playing like shit, why push Yadi?

Can someone explain to we what the rush is all about?

O.city · 07-09-2013, 05:48 PM

@Cardinals: #STLCards trade RHP Mitchell Boggs, currently at Memphis (AAA), to Colorado in exchange for the Rockies international signing bonus slot #4.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

@Cardinals: #STLCards trade RHP Mitchell Boggs, currently at Memphis (AAA), to Colorado in exchange for the Rockies international signing bonus slot #4.

The signing bonus is the only thing you can trade in the draft. Must have our eye on someone.

Hope Boggs gets it together for him personally. Seems like a good guy. But he was dead to Cardinal fans.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-09-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

@Cardinals: #STLCards trade RHP Mitchell Boggs, currently at Memphis (AAA), to Colorado in exchange for the Rockies international signing bonus slot #4.

Two things. Not a bad haul for Boggs, that slot is worth $2.2M.

However, according to BA, the Rockies have the 3rd slot.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/inter...l-bonus-slots/

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Two things. Not a bad haul for Boggs, that slot is worth $2.2M.

However, according to BA, the Rockies have the 3rd slot.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/inter...l-bonus-slots/

The dude is still flopping in AAA. ERA near 6. I'm surprised we got anything for him. Figured he would be a throw in to seal a deal.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-09-2013, 06:07 PM

The last thing Boggs needed to get his shit together was to get shipped to a place where routine fly balls turn into 420 foot HR's.

That said, getting a case of Lena Blackburne Baseball Rubbing Mud would have been adequate compensation - so good job, Mo.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2013, 06:21 PM

Wow. Perhaps the greatest day for Cardinal fans since Game 5 of the 2012 NLDS.

Burn in Hell, Boggs.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Wow. Perhaps the greatest day for Cardinal fans since Game 5 of the 2012 NLDS. Burn in Hell, Boggs. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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