Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 130

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Pepe Silvia · 06-13-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Who was the schmuck that was trying to discredit the Cardinals player development system?

20 of the 25 players on the St. Louis Cardinals active roster at the moment have played their entire careers for the Cardinals.

Meanwhile the Royals only have 11 such players on their 25 man.

Yeah - it's all luck in St. Louis...

I forgot who it was but thats asinine, hes just bitter. They only have 11 of the same players because their draft picks constantly bust and the only FA's they sign are over the hill veterans who should have retired yesterday. Very sad, I guess I would be bitter too.

Pepe Silvia · 06-13-2013, 01:29 PM

Waino ****ing some shit up.

Frazod · 06-13-2013, 01:56 PM

And that's a winner. Apparently there was a bit too much drama in the 9th, but it all ends well.

Marcellus · 06-13-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

And that's a winner. Apparently there was a bit too much drama in the 9th, but it all ends well.

Muhica gave up a solo HR and a double. Ground out then 2 strike outs.

Frazod · 06-13-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Muhica gave up a solo HR and a double. Ground out then 2 strike outs.

Ouch. Well, if you're going to have a shitty day, I guess this is the time to do it.

****ing Reds beating the Cubs as usual. Do they ever play anybody but the Cubs?

Frazod · 06-13-2013, 03:46 PM

****ing Cubs. Managed to tie the game, had two one with one out in the bottom of the 9th, couldn't push a run across. On to extra innings, where they're certainly lose again.

Useless turds.

Pepe Silvia · 06-13-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

****ing Cubs. Managed to tie the game, had two one with one out in the bottom of the 9th, couldn't push a run across. On to extra innings, where they're certainly lose again.

Useless turds.

No kidding, worthless mother****ers.

DJ's left nut · 06-13-2013, 04:44 PM

Partch, the same guy that Holliday hit into the next county, has given up 1 hit in 3 innings of relief work.

****ing Cubs can't even burn through the Reds bullpen correctly.

O.city · 06-13-2013, 04:56 PM

DJ, I believe that was Chiefscountry who was talking about the developmental system of the STL Cardinals.

O.city · 06-13-2013, 05:27 PM

I'm not sure about it, but my dad actually brought it up today in convo about the Cards. If he comes off the DL healthy and they decide to sell, would there be a possibility or interest in moving something to the BlueJays for Reyes?

I know he's hurt alot, but I'm just not sure Kozma is something that we can roll with.

**BigRedChief** · 06-13-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not sure about it, but my dad actually brought it up today in convo about the Cards. If he comes off the DL healthy and they decide to sell, would there be a possibility or interest in moving something to the BlueJays for Reyes?

I know he's hurt alot, but I'm just not sure Kozma is something that we can roll with.

I don't see us trading for a SS, especially with the Bluejays. We kind of screwed them in the Rasmus deal. Bet they are leary of trading with us now.

Pepe Silvia · 06-13-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don't see us trading for a SS, especially with the Bluejays. We kind of screwed them in the Rasmus deal. Bet they are leary of trading with us now.

They should be leery of trading with the Marlins as well.

Pepe Silvia · 06-13-2013, 05:43 PM

Well I guess the worthless mother****ers pulled it out, thanks Cubbies.

Frazod · 06-13-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Well I guess the worthless mother****ers pulled it out, thanks Cubbies.

I'll be damned. In 14 innings, too. That'll leave a mark.

**BigRedChief** · 06-13-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I'll be damned. In 14 innings, too. That'll leave a mark.

Thats fantastic!

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3229627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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